Poll

What Mircos would you like to have?

MHM e-type
8 (40%)
RPM revolution
1 (5%)
M&R Challenger (John, will be posting a video)
3 (15%)
Who voted for Next Press?
2 (10%)
Anatol
5 (25%)
Tuff Freedom
1 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Author Topic: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only  (Read 14134 times)

Offline blue moon

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 02:07:54 PM »
i like the idea of the locking mechanism also
that a side. he is only turning one knob to make the adjustment
another time saver. whereas when working with two knobs you gotta
make sure both knobs are going evenly up or down together
just my two cents

yes, for the most part, micros are linear. One to move the screen back and forth and a set to move them side to side (one moves the front and another for the back).
 
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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2012, 02:14:21 PM »
that looks pretty similar to our S-type, except that the front to back adjuster is down on the same piece as the left/right adjuster.
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Re: AUTO WARS - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2012, 03:53:50 PM »
Here is my MHM E-type

mhm e micros


Sorry dumb question but what is holding the screen place in the video , it looks like rubber blocks at each end???

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2012, 05:11:28 PM »
they're nylon cups that fit over pins on the frame holders. Roller frames use pin adapters that fit into holes on the frame holders... the frame holders accommodate both types.

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2012, 05:18:52 PM »
they're nylon cups that fit over pins on the frame holders. Roller frames use pin adapters that fit into holes on the frame holders... the frame holders accommodate both types.

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Not a Dumb question. MHM has a special way of mounting the screen that works with its Film Positioning Unit. They have 2 bushing (cups) that are installed on the same spot on all your screens with a drill jig. Then the FPU and press has metal studs that the bushings go over. The press then is like a vise and uses air pressure to hold the screen tight. In the video you can see the bushings by the mirco adjustments. (they look like a grey spacer (half inch round grey bar) between the screen and the screen holder)  It is very different but works really will and it is really fast. (The next AUTO WAR will be screen clamps)

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2012, 06:40:42 PM »
Anatol Micros.wmv

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 06:57:11 PM »
i was thinking about anatol having similar micros
thanks Donnie
nice video ;)

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2012, 07:09:25 PM »
Personally any press where the screen does not come unclamped during micro-registration
is a winner in my book. Too much room for jumping when those clamps hit the screen.

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 07:19:47 PM »
Anatol Micros.wmv


Thanks for posting Donnie. That looks like a nice press. You have to unlock the screen to move the micros?

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2012, 09:26:45 PM »
You have to unlock the opposite side. I really do not have much in the way of "jumping around" when you lock it back unless the screen is pretty warped but even then you can use the manual lock to keep it fairly level without completely locking it down.

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2012, 10:30:19 PM »
The mhm features are really out of the others league all around.  But out of the more traditional presses I do like the anatol micros a lot on our manual. They're identical to Donnie's but plastic knobs and you don't unlock a side. Theres almost no jump if you use them correctly and the side to side movement is truly linear.  When I need to micro it's a simple left or right nudge 99% of the time. I love them compared to x-y style micros.  I think it's crazy that anyone  voted for m&r style x-y s, I hate that setup regardless of press brand- the movement sucks and then when you finally get it there it jumps when you lock it down.  they can walk out of reg in a run too.  So thats my vote- mhm and then the anatol style.

Do you need to back off the mhm ones after adjusting or does the spring loading take care of this?

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 12:18:01 AM »
You have to unlock the opposite side. I really do not have much in the way of "jumping around" when you lock it back unless the screen is pretty warped but even then you can use the manual lock to keep it fairly level without completely locking it down.

That make more sense. I was thinking how does it work if the screen is not locked down. So one side of your press does all the adjusting then you lock the other side down. It kind of works like my Workhorse press if I had another clamp on the front of the screen and I only lock that one down after I have the rear clamp holding the screen in the right place. Makes sense.

As long as it works then your good. I don't need a press that saves time like the MHM does. I am not a full production shop and don't plan on being one anytime soon. I got my auto so I don't burn my shoulders and arms out before I am 40. I maybe the only screen printer that didn't buy an auto so I can run it at top speed on huge orders.

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 01:10:39 AM »
I think it's crazy that anyone  voted for m&r style x-y s, I hate that setup regardless of press brand- the movement sucks and then when you finally get it there it jumps when you lock it down.  they can walk out of reg in a run too. 

Do you need to back off the mhm ones after adjusting or does the spring loading take care of this?

I have never seen the M&R style of micros..Someone post a video please...

The MHMs adjust just like I did in the video. You just let go of the knob when its in the right spot. There is no jump or need to Back off.

Back off, I am not sure what you mean?

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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2012, 01:45:34 AM »
I think it's crazy that anyone  voted for m&r style x-y s, I hate that setup regardless of press brand- the movement sucks and then when you finally get it there it jumps when you lock it down.  they can walk out of reg in a run too. 

Do you need to back off the mhm ones after adjusting or does the spring loading take care of this?

I have never seen the M&R style of micros..Someone post a video please...

The MHMs adjust just like I did in the video. You just let go of the knob when its in the right spot. There is no jump or need to Back off.

Back off, I am not sure what you mean?

yeah yeah.. I'm slacking. The M&R works wonders when done correctly.. to many people lock the rear holder and then using the front micros to try and move a metal frame around. It walks as the metal frame wanting to return to it's natural position is stronger than the clamps holding it.
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Re: AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2012, 03:39:43 AM »
hey you did not include a freedom press.  I will post a video later today with the micros we use.