AUTO WARS 1 - Micro Registration - Videos only

[Screened Gear]

hey you did not include a freedom press.  I will post a video later today with the micros we use.

I did not limit the post to presses that are listed in the poll, those are just presses that have videos so far or presses people said they would post a video of. I will change the poll when a new video is posted. The more videos the better.

Freedom is a good press. Its made about 15 mins from my shop. Great guys at Workhorse.

[aauusa]

here is my video   probably will leave more questions than answers.  i am a printer not a video guy

freedom press micros

[Sbrem]

The mhm features are really out of the others league all around.  But out of the more traditional presses I do like the anatol micros a lot on our manual. They're identical to Donnie's but plastic knobs and you don't unlock a side. Theres almost no jump if you use them correctly and the side to side movement is truly linear.  When I need to micro it's a simple left or right nudge 99% of the time. I love them compared to x-y style micros.  I think it's crazy that anyone  voted for m&r style x-y s, I hate that setup regardless of press brand- the movement sucks and then when you finally get it there it jumps when you lock it down.  they can walk out of reg in a run too.  So thats my vote- mhm and then the anatol style.

Do you need to back off the mhm ones after adjusting or does the spring loading take care of this?

just turn the micros and print...

Steve

[blue moon]

The mhm features are really out of the others league all around.  But out of the more traditional presses I do like the anatol micros a lot on our manual. They're identical to Donnie's but plastic knobs and you don't unlock a side. Theres almost no jump if you use them correctly and the side to side movement is truly linear.  When I need to micro it's a simple left or right nudge 99% of the time. I love them compared to x-y style micros.  I think it's crazy that anyone  voted for m&r style x-y s, I hate that setup regardless of press brand- the movement sucks and then when you finally get it there it jumps when you lock it down.  they can walk out of reg in a run too.  So thats my vote- mhm and then the anatol style.

Do you need to back off the mhm ones after adjusting or does the spring loading take care of this?

just turn the micros and print...

Steve

on some occasions, we don't even stop the press. They keep printing and I just turn the knobs and wait for them to put it on the belt.

pierre

[ZooCity]

yeah yeah.. I'm slacking. The M&R works wonders when done correctly.. to many people lock the rear holder and then using the front micros to try and move a metal frame around. It walks as the metal frame wanting to return to it's natural position is stronger than the clamps holding it.

Gotcha on that John but my beef is with the fundamentals of the x-y/anti-droop plate system.  You don't find it to be awkward having only the option to move in an arc or problematic when it jumps upon tightening?

Also, with M&R presses specifically, I've seen some listed as having front and back micros, how's that system work?

Pierre, that sounds too sweet.  I feel that often we printers want to see it technically perfect whereas the client wouldn't even see the difference between the shirts before the small tweak and after.  This sounds like a great way to scratch that itch without slowing things down. 

[alan802]

Sorry for the late entry, been a busy week but not for the good reasons like having a ton of jobs to print.

RPM Micro Functions.MOV

[Screened Gear]

Sorry for the late entry, been a busy week but not for the good reasons like having a ton of jobs to print.

RPM Micro Functions.MOV

Great video Alan. Thanks for posting it, I know you have been really busy. Your micros works almost exactly like the anatol press. Looks like a easy to use system.

[alan802]

Sorry for the late entry, been a busy week but not for the good reasons like having a ton of jobs to print.

RPM Micro Functions.MOV

Great video Alan. Thanks for posting it, I know you have been really busy. Your micros works almost exactly like the anatol press. Looks like a easy to use system.

Yeah, I've played with the micros on several different anatols at shows and shops and they are pretty close.  There are some subtle differences but nothing that is a deal breaker either way. They move differently though, for whatever reason.  It's basically the same but they use different components and parts.  I really couldn't say which one is smoother or which one works better either, they both work really well and hopefully hold up well under years of production.  Our centurian micros got really sloppy over time and they had tons of slack and backlash that sometimes you were purely guessing.  They would also jump and move slightly when locking down the micros and you don't get any jumping or movement on the RPM. 

[ebscreen]

So who's got a MHM 4000 with Auto Reg to show?

[Screened Gear]

So who's got a MHM 4000 with Auto Reg to show?

That would be cool to see. Do we have big money guys on here???

[Sbrem]

I think Rick Roth at Mirror Image has one of those presses, with the emphasis on "think"

Steve

[Screened Gear]

Anyone else want to post a video? We are still missing quite a few of the big manufactures here like TAS, M&R, Brown, Lawson, Progressive / Falcon.

[Extreme Screen Prints]

I have a Mhm 4000 with the auto reg and I will post a video on here tomorrow so everyone can see how they work, we also have an etype and if you like the etype micros than you will love the 4000s auto reg. For now here is a video of the press printing, its hard to show the actual micros but if you look there is a digital pad on each head and there are 6 arrows to micro the screen, essentially it's the same concept of the S-type but with the auto reg you know with out a doubt how far you are moving that screen when you touch up or down.  If anyone asks we are double hitting the discharge underbase because its on a 255 mesh and its cmyk with 2 spots on dark.

http://www.youtube.com/v/zYMkww04vfk?hl=en_US&amp

[Mark @ Hurricane Printing]

i have a manual chameleon 8/8 with air clamps and i love the micors on it. They have the exact amount of resistance when you turn the knobs...nice and firm.

My ONLY wish is that there was only one knob to turn to push the screen inward or outward....if you never used one before , in order to move the screen outward and inward you have to turn the two "twist-screen-left-or-right" knobs in unison....and i have yet to pull a screen ONLY in or out...every time I do it i turn one knob to much or not enough and then have to now adjust the screen with the twist left or right.

did that make sense?

[alan802]

i have a manual chameleon 8/8 with air clamps and i love the micors on it. They have the exact amount of resistance when you turn the knobs...nice and firm.

My ONLY wish is that there was only one knob to turn to push the screen inward or outward....if you never used one before , in order to move the screen outward and inward you have to turn the two "twist-screen-left-or-right" knobs in unison....and i have yet to pull a screen ONLY in or out...every time I do it i turn one knob to much or not enough and then have to now adjust the screen with the twist left or right.

did that make sense?

It makes perfect sense, and it's frustrating at times when having to make adjustments on the manual press compared to the auto.