Relief Numbers in a design

[celticshrt]

I have never printed relief numbers in a design, so i have a few questions,

Where can i buy the numbers? i need 2" numbers

or what can you use to cut these, i do have a cad cutter but what material would i use if this is possible

thanks
Jim

[Frog]

First off welcome. Second, what are "relief numbers",  super thick?

[celticshrt]

I know the theory of this. it is used for sports teams , it is a way to have each players number in the logo. the logo i attached has a number 38 how you do this is the oval part of the design is solid and you have to insert a new number on the back side of the screen for each new number.

[Frog]

Okay, "reversed out" not "relief".

Last time I did this myself was when I direct screened them and merely did the art in CorelDRAW (v3 to put the time span in perspective)

I have since moved to cad-cut on numbers and would do these, once again on CorelDRAW, albeit vX4 now.
There are many materials out there. What have you used in the past? Stahls, Specialty Materials, Siser, Spectra all have films that will work.

As for specific sources, and favorite suppliers, that information is pretty much only accessible in sections here that are limited to members who have become verified with at least ten relevant posts.
In the meantime, where did you get your cad-cutter? Where do you get your vinyl type films now?

You can also contact our banner advertisers like Coastal who deals Siser. Perhaps some of our other supplier advertisers sell vinyl as well.

[celticshrt]

I have a summa cut  cad cutter that i bought from Digital art solutions, i get my numbers from twill usa and stalhs, i don't want to use cad cut material the numbers have to be weeded and then peeled from the backing to time consuming, someone has to sell these?
Jim

[Orion]

I get my 2" numbers from Dalco.

http://www.dalcoathletic.com/

[Frog]

Celtic, another way to do these is set up the oval on a screen, and use your 2" Stahls die cut numbers as "stencils" on each print to block the ink and reverse out the number part of the image.

I've never seen these as die cut Ovals with reversed out numbers

[celticshrt]

I don't want to waste my numbers on this but that will be my last resort, also the oval is solid and you just put the numbers in, the oval is attached to the LAX sticks
Thanks
for your Help
Jim

[Frog]

With this method, which is labor intensive, you would prepare a screen with the solid oval. Sacrifice a station for a set-up station and strike a print, flash it, then lay down your numbers in the correct position. and print again on the set up shirt, now you have your number stencils stuck to the screen and you print your real shirt.
Peel the numbers off and repeat.

You could also probably cut these out of paper like they use for number stencils or baking parchment

[jasonl]

Those things suck, what i do is print a solid oval, then burn one screen with every number on it, put in ink color that matches the shirt, hold the screen over it and print the number manually.  I can print 100 of these with one screen in about 10 minutes.  They still suck either way, but thats how I do it.

[Sbrem]

No real easy way to do this, so charge what it takes. I personally like Frog's idea, or Jasonl's but I think it's a bit slower than that. Hell, I can't load and print 1 color and unload at the rate of 10 shirts a minute, that's 600 an hour on a manual by yourself...

Steve

[Scobey Peterman]

We use Stahls numbers Pro block 1 inch or 2 inch

Make sure the design will hold the size of number you want to use.

We set up the screen and then line up lazers for a reference points.  One at the bottom of the number and one lazer going through the middle of the design.

Line up the number, print, remove number, repeat.

Watch out for numbers with 1 in them.  You will need to off set just a bit to make it centered.
Test this.

We charge an extra 1.00 to put this in a design.

We use an art knife to take the number out of the design.  We hold a box under the screen and let it fall into the box.

Good luck

[Coyote71]

I use number stencils from Dalco. Takes time but gets the job done.

[Get Shirts]

I like Jason's idea.  But 10/minute sounds insanely fast.  Post a video!

[jasonl]

I'm talking printing the number.  The shorts have to be printed the regular way first which takes more time.  I can print the number in the middle of 100 pair in about 10 mins.  Sorry for the confusion.