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How accurate are your colors?
Atownsend:
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--- Quote from: tonypep on January 29, 2025, 12:41:54 PM ---"Pantone approved" means that the ink company has to get x-percentage of the Pantone book approved....not every color in the book!!!
Zelko probably still uses the ink shaker we had in Dover. They are awesome!
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still have the shaker. but - the plastisizer that rises to the top of the pigment is so thin - when you put it in the shaker it finds its way out of the bucket
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Are these the equalized pigments?
Had a good conversation with Bill @ tech support SPS. They’d like let be our closest distributor. He recommended the equalized pigments with WM plastics perfect print base… cures at 270 and is better from a viscosity perspective than the low cure base from Wilflex. Really liking the idea of going to a lower cure temp. Apparently all of their inks cure at 270 now. Anyone have recent experience with WM plastics bases and whites? Can’t really have low cure top colors without a low cure white. A lot of variables to change at once, which I don’t like… but man 270 cure temp is appealing.
--- Quote from: blue moon on January 29, 2025, 01:02:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: tonypep on January 29, 2025, 12:41:54 PM ---"Pantone approved" means that the ink company has to get x-percentage of the Pantone book approved....not every color in the book!!!
Zelko probably still uses the ink shaker we had in Dover. They are awesome!
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they only need to formulate 100 out of almost 3000. And even those do not have to be very close. That certification/approval is a JOKE!
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LOL! I kind of figured that was marketing hype!
Admiral:
What's everyone's experience with the Wilflex Epic / PC system been? How is out of the box color accuracy with IMS?
We use IMS and Wilflex EQualizers. Very good accuracy. Key is - we email the lab if the formula is out of date (we can tell when they were ported over from the older system I forget the date cut off). So, we either mix or email them we need an updated Pantone formula and they do it in the lab and email us back, and update IMS with it.
We have probably emailed for 400 Pantones+ by now lol. It looks like it's gone from requesting 6-8 per month down to 2-3.
I've been happy with the system, no reason to change.
bimmridder:
Short answer. We print a $#%&load for Minor and Major League Baseball, among other licensed sports. We use Wilflex Epic PC with their Low Cure Base. Using their low cure white as well. Never had Properties reject a print because of a bad color. Just for what it's worth
CBCB:
--- Quote from: Admiral on January 29, 2025, 06:38:39 PM ---What's everyone's experience with the Wilflex Epic / PC system been? How is out of the box color accuracy with IMS?
We use IMS and Wilflex EQualizers. Very good accuracy. Key is - we email the lab if the formula is out of date (we can tell when they were ported over from the older system I forget the date cut off). So, we either mix or email them we need an updated Pantone formula and they do it in the lab and email us back, and update IMS with it.
We have probably emailed for 400 Pantones+ by now lol. It looks like it's gone from requesting 6-8 per month down to 2-3.
I've been happy with the system, no reason to change.
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I tried this with the Rio system but some 2016 or dateless colours are still way off.
There’s less than 3000 I think. So how have shops not ran into every colour yet?
I think all ink companies need to make it easier to submit an error and get it back.
But why would they? Every quart we get wrong is money in their pocket, haha!
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