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Are you doing DTG?
zanegun08:
Why buy one and deal with the headache when you can just outsource to someone who has the equipment. There are already companies that have had Polaris that have gone out of business even with it being so new.
I've posted before https://imprintmaker.com/ is who I use, $9.99 for a for a Canvas 3001 with a 12" x 13.5" image or $2 more to go up to 14.5" x 18". Free shipping at 24 pieces, and you can provide your own garments as well though I only do that if it's large orders which for DTG it typically isn't. That print price of $4.99 for the smaller image is less than a DTF transfer (unless maybe you are printing it yourself), Supacolors 11" x 14" DTF is more until you hit 100+ pieces and you still have to heat press them yourself.
They post good ai generated images on instagram https://www.instagram.com/imprintmaker/ which this is where DTG excels. If you send them a spot color design or small text you'll probably by disappointed, but if you have images like they show on their insta you'll probably like the results.
The best part is, when the newest one comes along, you can just sub out to someone that has that.
The place that makes the OvalJet changed their whole business model to sell a full DTF solution, from software to cutting - https://www.240tech.com/ but Ovaljet prints weren't that good anyhow, felt like sandpaper though a heat press could improve that. I haven't seen their DTF prints but assuming they are similar to all the rest.
Also DTF for large prints is expensive, at 4 cents per square inch that same 11" x 14" is $6.16 so the cost doesn't even pan out that well for DTF for large images as well, totally ignoring the fact it feels like a sticker on the shirt, and you can't just halftone every image to make it feel softer.
GoWestRob:
Great assessment Zane. ImprintMaker is also who we used for our Polaris place. They're extremely fast, great service and can't beat that price!
ericheartsu:
Zane is very smart, and i'm lucky to call him a friend, and work with him.
Nation03:
I had visions of grandeur for the DTG business last year and bought an F2100. In hindsight, bad move lol. I'm now stuck with an expensive lease on a machine we don't really use and they dropped in price dramatically soon after we bought it. It's my own fault. I had this idea in my head that I would be able to slowly transition out of screen printing and move more to the digital side of things. That hasn't been the case, and I don't love the results. I'm sure we can get it right with some trial and error, however, we're so busy screen printing I don't have the time to mess with DTG. I use it for DTF transfers occasionally, but that's really the only use case. I'll try to keep it in good shape and maybe if we hit a slow period I'll try to figure out a business model for it or I'll sell it for pennies once it's paid off.
mk162:
I have lots of opinions on this. I think DTF overall is a better fit for most things. Our throughput per hour is magnitudes higher with DTF than DTG.
We currently offer light garment DTG/no white ink. We pretreat our garments so the prints are brighter and wash better. It's a noticeable difference, that's why we do it.
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