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DTF and the future of screen printing
Homer:
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--- Quote from: Ron Pierson on February 17, 2024, 04:20:11 PM ---Are we talking DTF (direct to film) or DTG (direct to garment)...??
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DTF, We can make it not so shiny, but no matter what it always feels like a sticker.
pj
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Our mutual CCI rep told me about it yesterday. He said it felt wonderful, I'm dying to know myself... I have samples from every DTF printer dealer I can find so see what the magic ink /powder combo is, maybe I can find out. I know our Mutoh/STS dtf printer feels like a sweat patch/sticker. It's not good, at all...
blue moon:
--- Quote from: Homer on February 17, 2024, 05:16:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: blue moon on February 17, 2024, 04:27:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ron Pierson on February 17, 2024, 04:20:11 PM ---Are we talking DTF (direct to film) or DTG (direct to garment)...??
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DTF, We can make it not so shiny, but no matter what it always feels like a sticker.
pj
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Our mutual CCI rep told me about it yesterday. He said it felt wonderful, I'm dying to know myself... I have samples from every DTF printer dealer I can find so see what the magic ink /powder combo is, maybe I can find out. I know our Mutoh/STS dtf printer feels like a sweat patch/sticker. It's not good, at all...
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definitely let me know what you find out. We have been heat pressing with something rougher after application, but even then it's not quite right.
brandon:
There are some shops like Pierre's, Rick Roth's, and Jacob's that can make DTG feel and seem just like screen printing. But I have not seen one DTF print that I would be okay with on a ringspun cotton shirt. Not a single one. It's an enormous sticker. Trying putting that on a Metal band tee shirt. It's not gonna happen.
Homer:
--- Quote from: brandon on February 17, 2024, 09:04:20 PM ---There are some shops like Pierre's, Rick Roth's, and Jacob's that can make DTG feel and seem just like screen printing. But I have not seen one DTF print that I would be okay with on a ringspun cotton shirt. Not a single one. It's an enormous sticker. Trying putting that on a Metal band tee shirt. It's not gonna happen.
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agree 100%, it feels terrible, not a wearable option -right now. But what if it didn't, What if it felt the same, or close? Since this is the biggest complaint, you know that issue will be addressed first in the coming years.... You could have youth SM - 6XL tall metal heads, all with the size appropriate logo and it won't be an issue, at all...
farmboygraphics:
This needs to be looked at from the customers side. I printed some tri-blends with digital heat apply on half of the back for a small order, they loved them. A large motorcycle club that I've printed for had their last two orders done with dtf and love them, my brother is a member. If you still have another 10 years to go in this business you better be looking hard at this, keep in mind, right now is the worst these printers will be. I don't remember there ever being a dtg expo, yet there's one coming up for dtf. I've had a big uptick in customers wanting multicolor prints, for now I work around that with sim or full color process. You can turn your nose up at AI art, but it's not going away and everyone with a phone and Canva (they had almost 2 billion in revenue end of last year) are going to want what they made on shirts. I just turned 58, my shop and equipment are paid for and I sure don't feel like dropping 30 grand on anything again, plus building out a room to keep it in. My plan is to set the money aside this year and see where this goes for me. Like I said, customers opinion and not your feelings are moving this needle.
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