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Left chest print on black hoodie -> underbase or dtf?

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OhNoPrinting:
Hey,

i got a job for a left chest print, a logo with quite fine details (lines and text) and it is supposed to be in bright pink on a black hoodie.

I did a print in yellow (print/flash/print) on black and it worked nice, but the design was more chunky.

Because it is only 40 pieces and small, i was tempted to do DTF and just heat press it. But then i don´t want to betray the screen printing idea, but i am quite sure I won´t manage to underbase it because of registration issues.

I will do now a test print with (print/flash/print) and see how bright the pink will come out.

I never did an underbase so maybe I am overthinking it, but what would be the smallest line size you would safely print underbase/plastisol?

balloonguy:
I think you will get much finer lines and better detail with screen printing than dtf. I would try a lower mesh screen like a 156 or even 110 and use a hi opacity ink. It is a small order so p/f/p the same screen. If you have to add another f/p  it is not a big deal.

Sbrem:
It's hard to tell without seeing the image. If it's just some fine lines and text, then a p/f/p scenario will probably work best, but if it needs halftones, as a left front, then I would use DTF, as the inkjet resolution is much finer than a screenprinted halftone would be. I'm proud to be a screenprinter for a long time, but DTF has really changed the game.

Steve

Scobey Peterman:
I would be printing this on a manual printer with a special board I use for heart prints. It keeps the seams out of the way.

Pre shrink and let it cool.

Two coats of white underbase.  Let it cool then the pink ink.  Both screens on 150.  The pink even on 200 mesh.

If it feels rough after going through the dryer, 4 second on the heat press and it should be as smooth as a baby bottom.

Yes, it is a lot of work but you want to put out a good product and it is a small order.

blue moon:

--- Quote from: Scobey Peterman on November 08, 2023, 09:01:10 AM ---I would be printing this on a manual printer with a special board I use for heart prints. It keeps the seams out of the way.

Pre shrink and let it cool.

Two coats of white underbase.  Let it cool then the pink ink.  Both screens on 150.  The pink even on 200 mesh.

If it feels rough after going through the dryer, 4 second on the heat press and it should be as smooth as a baby bottom.

Yes, it is a lot of work but you want to put out a good product and it is a small order.

--- End quote ---

This! It will get you going and give you results you need with low risk.

Ultimately the most important thing is taking care of the customer. If that means DTF right now, thats what you go with!

Long term you really want that to be as efficient as possible. The best possible result would be one stroke of underbase and one stroke of top color with one flash in between.

pj

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