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Onestroke MB white

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3Deep:
Never got a gal of the MB, I bought a gal of the MIA white instead which has more upside to it but cost way more, I didn't really see that much of a print difference than the ELT plus the ELT is a little cheaper, both are low cure inks, if cost is a factor I'd buy the ELT all day.  I just priced a gal of Union EF Poly LB Golden Yellow (Whew they love it) but it's the best non underbase printing Golden Yellow I've found, even better than One Stroke, but that's just my opinion.

mk162:
We've been running Onestroke #26 white and it's been great for cotton and blends.  It's around $90 a gallon I think, including shipping.


I have a confession though, we've been struggling with white inks recently.  Our prints went from what I would consider flawless to mediocre and we can't pinpoint what happened and when.

We are mostly back to normal, but our bases seem to be a touch weak, especially when you use a standard opacity ink on top of a base. We could get great opacity, but our prints felt like they were from the 90's.

I thought it was a bad batch of ELT, so they sent me a new gallon and it was the same. 

It's frustrating to say the least.

3Deep:
At one time we had 3 maybe 5 brands of white ink, now only two, One stroke and International coatings cool white...One Stroke for the bleeds and cool white for our normal stuff both are low cure.  The last time I used #26 it was a little stiff, so they sent me a reducer, kinda hard to pin down a white ink, you might get a gal that works like a champ and the next gal of the same ink might print like crap, I also stopped buying 5er's I was dipping it out to qt's per job anyway plus gal are just easier to handle.

mk162:

--- Quote from: 3Deep on October 24, 2023, 09:40:04 AM ---At one time we had 3 maybe 5 brands of white ink, now only two, One stroke and International coatings cool white...One Stroke for the bleeds and cool white for our normal stuff both are low cure.  The last time I used #26 it was a little stiff, so they sent me a reducer, kinda hard to pin down a white ink, you might get a gal that works like a champ and the next gal of the same ink might print like crap, I also stopped buying 5er's I was dipping it out to qt's per job anyway plus gal are just easier to handle.

--- End quote ---

Also, 5 gallons are overweight for UPS, so there's sometimes a handing fee.  WM Plastics uses 3.5 gallon buckets now.

The 26 white has been working really well for us, I had some ELT I believe X series and it was super thin and not opaque.  I preferred running 1 ink, but the 26 is really good on almost everything except poly.

I wish I could get back there to be honest.  But we just can't figure out what's going on.

Nation03:
I'm envious of everyone that has such a great experience. I had nothing but issues with ELT. After flash tack was so bad the shirts wouldn't even release from the back of the screens. Tried every flash time/temp combo. No luck. Went back to Wilflex quick white and all of the headaches were gone lol. For almost 900 bucks I expected it to be dummy proof. The support team was little help as well. I have to believe I had a wack batch, but I'm not willing to take that gamble again for the price.

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