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Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« on: April 04, 2021, 12:41:45 PM »
Finally about to pull the trigger on something, with the EcoTex at the top of the list, but not a for sure without seeing whats out there.  All the research on these in this forum are years old, I am looking for opinions now that you guys have had the units for a while.  What has improved?  What still sux?  Which one is cost effective?  Any help appreciated.
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2021, 07:35:12 PM »
We are very limited in space, means a 3 chamber auto reclaim unit might not fit in our current space. I did however look at the Inpro Combi-Eco a one chamber unit. Best solution for our shop. Still have to apply chemicals manually but all pressure washing and rinsing is fully automated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqv-PvhTzJU&ab_channel=InproHolland

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2021, 09:31:14 PM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2021, 01:22:21 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

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Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2021, 06:36:34 AM »
EcoTex is 22 weeks out FYI
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2021, 08:05:23 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

pierre
Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2021, 08:12:06 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

pierre
Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?

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Whats the cost on their system?
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2021, 08:23:01 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

pierre
Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?

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Whats the cost on their system?
We bought used, so not sure. But either 50 or 60k.
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2021, 08:42:28 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

pierre
Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?

Image Technologies

Whats the cost on their system?
We bought used, so not sure. But either 50 or 60k.
Piere

New or used price?
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2021, 08:57:08 AM »
there is a used M&R unit on digitsmith right now. It does not seem like there is a huge difference in performance between them.
We have the IT the uses dip tanks are pretty happy with it. What used to take full day is now done in an hour and a half or two at most. The screens look very good and every now and then if there is an issue we just run it through the cycle again. Flood rinse at the end. We also stopped using the mesh prep and everything is working fine.
Chemistry from IT seems to be significantly better than anything else we tried, but that would make sense since it was designed for their equipment. Other stuff was foaming or creating deposits in the lines and filters.
I think the advantage of the dip tank system is that it gives the emulsion remover time to work rather than being blasted few seconds after application.
You are welcome to stop by and check it out. Matt, our production manager will know a lot more about it, I am just telling you what he told me.

pierre

Excuse my lack of knowledge but what or who is "IT"?


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Whats the cost on their system?

We bought used, so not sure. But either 50 or 60k.
Piere


New or used price?


new. we paid about $20 installed with a short warranty for a used one (from third party).
The new price is in the ballpark when compared to others. Some might be cheaper, there are definitely more expensive ones.
What I do't know is if the freight and install are included in that price.
Also, this is a BIG unit! I think it's 16 feet wide. Could be more.
here's the link
http://www.imagetechnology.com/equipmentdetail/specialty-washing-systems/swr-series-side-loading/

we have the 300, it washes 4 at a time. the smaller 250 does 2 at a time.

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2021, 01:03:21 PM »
We just bought a used Dane unit that is in the process of being refurbish by Interchange. I think it's the 125 (not the compact unit). Retail on a new one is round $90k. It's suppose to do the whole process... we shall see. I sure hope it works better that the kid doing them now :)
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
We have a Lotus Holland sitting here waiting to get installed- chamber 1 ink cleaner, chamber 2 emulsion stripper, chamber 3 press wash. 

I purchased in a bit of a rush late last year and went with it since it was: inline, separate chambers for ink & emulsion, self contained, simple, same service network as our auto presses, fits in the space we need it, keeps shop owners happy from those I spoke with, etc.  I had done some deeper research on auto reclaim years ago but didn't update myself on what was fresh before buying. 

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2021, 02:29:53 PM »
EcoTex is 22 weeks out FYI

WOW, I was told 16 weeks!  Still LONG!
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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2021, 03:08:21 PM »
EcoTex is 22 weeks out FYI


WOW, I was told 16 weeks!  Still LONG!


$18.5k and you can have one now! comes with a drum of chemicals which is $1,500 or so.
http://www.digitsmith.com/m-r-screen-washer-reclaimer-77452.html

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Re: Auto Reclaimers for 2021 and beyond
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2021, 04:56:29 PM »
EcoTex is 22 weeks out FYI


WOW, I was told 16 weeks!  Still LONG!


$18.5k and you can have one now! comes with a drum of chemicals which is $1,500 or so.
http://www.digitsmith.com/m-r-screen-washer-reclaimer-77452.html

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