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M&R iImage rocket launcher
Dottonedan:
Inkman, you should call your I-Image department and ask them what is being done about this dampening thing. You should not need to do that. They should have another ink to offer you to use. The last shop I was at last week uses T6 and have no issues whatsoever. They don’t dampen. They do however, have an Eco-Rince in the same room about 20’ away. I’m sure that introduces moisture overall.
Now, if you coat, and are using a type of emulsion that dries out (a lot) after sitting, or if you coat up and stack 200 screens to be ready, but only use 50 a day, and your surrounding area stays dry...then perhaps I can see a modification to your process and having to use a dampening process to assist you. But that’s not really an ink thing is it. Now. should it be an answer to this. Just try switching up the ink types. It’s a “emulsion, dry environment and screen turnover” thing maybe. What is your RH in that room? Of course, if you were using Wax, then this would a non issue. If that is your only concern, then maybe a deciding factor of an additional 20-30k is in order and get the wax machine so that you never have any of these potential “too dry” issues. But back to my resolve for this. You can change up the ink type to see what type works best for you...or you can dampen the screens as you have been. Refer to a TECH for feedback on each and the settings needed. Some don’t need any head setting changes while others do.
They are keeping with 4 brands that seem to work for different shops for sale on the mrprint.com website. The Type D2, the type T6. The original (KARA) type K and a new KX. These inks have actually came down in price They used too be $190.00 now $176.80
GraphicDisorder:
--- Quote from: inkman996 on March 23, 2021, 02:13:18 PM ---
Making your screen room with in tolerance to accommodate an ink machine is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. This is coming from an owner of an I Image. It was by far the biggest struggle for us to deal with. Plopping a humidifier down did not work, plopping a second more robust humidifier down also did not work. The final solution was dampening the screens before imaging. The shop that we were sent to by M&R to see a demo of an I Image had major issues with controlling the environment for their machine. Their operator demonstrated for us what he had to do to imagae a screen. He had one of those hand help steamers used in dry cleaning for moistening the screens, then the screen had to sit for a period of time before being imaged. So yes their is a clear advantage to wax tech and ink tech that a potential owner should consider.
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Just speaking from my own experience here.
My i-Image is 10ft from my 18/20 Gauntlet. It is in our wide open warehouse. Its 40-45 in winter (nights and weekends) and its 110-115 in summer. Its seeing that 100% of the time. We don't use a humidifier or anything for it. Its exposed to whatever the printing climate is. We've not really had any issues with it. Now and then it will have some hiccups that we clear up with a tiny bit of dorking around with cleaning head, but this is months or more apart really.
Its a Original ST, its a single head still on its original head from when we installed it in 2014 and still using the K ink. I am sure it will explode tomorrow now.
Dottonedan:
--- Quote from: GraphicDisorder on March 23, 2021, 04:52:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: inkman996 on March 23, 2021, 02:13:18 PM ---
Making your screen room with in tolerance to accommodate an ink machine is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. This is coming from an owner of an I Image. It was by far the biggest struggle for us to deal with. Plopping a humidifier down did not work, plopping a second more robust humidifier down also did not work. The final solution was dampening the screens before imaging. The shop that we were sent to by M&R to see a demo of an I Image had major issues with controlling the environment for their machine. Their operator demonstrated for us what he had to do to imagae a screen. He had one of those hand help steamers used in dry cleaning for moistening the screens, then the screen had to sit for a period of time before being imaged. So yes their is a clear advantage to wax tech and ink tech that a potential owner should consider.
--- End quote ---
Just speaking from my own experience here.
My i-Image is 10ft from my 18/20 Gauntlet. It is in our wide open warehouse. Its 40-45 in winter (nights and weekends) and its 110-115 in summer. Its seeing that 100% of the time. We don't use a humidifier or anything for it. Its exposed to whatever the printing climate is. We've not really had any issues with it. Now and then it will have some hiccups that we clear up with a tiny bit of dorking around with cleaning head, but this is months or more apart really.
Its a Original ST, its a single head still on its original head from when we installed it in 2014 and still using the K ink. I am sure it will explode tomorrow now.
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If it does explode, I can come fix it. :)
dirkdiggler:
--- Quote from: GraphicDisorder on March 23, 2021, 04:52:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: inkman996 on March 23, 2021, 02:13:18 PM ---
Making your screen room with in tolerance to accommodate an ink machine is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. This is coming from an owner of an I Image. It was by far the biggest struggle for us to deal with. Plopping a humidifier down did not work, plopping a second more robust humidifier down also did not work. The final solution was dampening the screens before imaging. The shop that we were sent to by M&R to see a demo of an I Image had major issues with controlling the environment for their machine. Their operator demonstrated for us what he had to do to imagae a screen. He had one of those hand help steamers used in dry cleaning for moistening the screens, then the screen had to sit for a period of time before being imaged. So yes their is a clear advantage to wax tech and ink tech that a potential owner should consider.
--- End quote ---
Just speaking from my own experience here.
My i-Image is 10ft from my 18/20 Gauntlet. It is in our wide open warehouse. Its 40-45 in winter (nights and weekends) and its 110-115 in summer. Its seeing that 100% of the time. We don't use a humidifier or anything for it. Its exposed to whatever the printing climate is. We've not really had any issues with it. Now and then it will have some hiccups that we clear up with a tiny bit of dorking around with cleaning head, but this is months or more apart really.
Its a Original ST, its a single head still on its original head from when we installed it in 2014 and still using the K ink. I am sure it will explode tomorrow now.
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You and I got ours at the same time, switching from K ink always caused problems for us, been through 5 or 6 heads. Finally back to K ink about 2 years ago and I WILL NEVER SWITCH AGAIN! You were smart for never switching, thats where all the problems come from.
GraphicDisorder:
--- Quote from: dirkdiggler on March 23, 2021, 09:34:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: GraphicDisorder on March 23, 2021, 04:52:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: inkman996 on March 23, 2021, 02:13:18 PM ---
Making your screen room with in tolerance to accommodate an ink machine is not as trivial as you are making it out to be. This is coming from an owner of an I Image. It was by far the biggest struggle for us to deal with. Plopping a humidifier down did not work, plopping a second more robust humidifier down also did not work. The final solution was dampening the screens before imaging. The shop that we were sent to by M&R to see a demo of an I Image had major issues with controlling the environment for their machine. Their operator demonstrated for us what he had to do to imagae a screen. He had one of those hand help steamers used in dry cleaning for moistening the screens, then the screen had to sit for a period of time before being imaged. So yes their is a clear advantage to wax tech and ink tech that a potential owner should consider.
--- End quote ---
Just speaking from my own experience here.
My i-Image is 10ft from my 18/20 Gauntlet. It is in our wide open warehouse. Its 40-45 in winter (nights and weekends) and its 110-115 in summer. Its seeing that 100% of the time. We don't use a humidifier or anything for it. Its exposed to whatever the printing climate is. We've not really had any issues with it. Now and then it will have some hiccups that we clear up with a tiny bit of dorking around with cleaning head, but this is months or more apart really.
Its a Original ST, its a single head still on its original head from when we installed it in 2014 and still using the K ink. I am sure it will explode tomorrow now.
--- End quote ---
You and I got ours at the same time, switching from K ink always caused problems for us, been through 5 or 6 heads. Finally back to K ink about 2 years ago and I WILL NEVER SWITCH AGAIN! You were smart for never switching, thats where all the problems come from.
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I dunno why I never changed but we never did and I tend to think I made the right call, was 100% luck but ill take it.
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