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Iron or Stampinator
Logowear:
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--- Quote from: ericheartsu on January 25, 2021, 10:03:35 AM ---
this is my argument for the stampinator:
-It is a roller and a flash in one unit.
that's it, game over!
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Pretty much! We have not touched our iron since we got the stampanator. In fact if someone want to buy a ROQ Iron I'd be happy to sell ours.
We found that especially with like a sponge fleece garment the Iron would sometime move the garment a bit, this could be minimized with less pressure and some screwing around, but you can take all those things out of the equation if you use the Stampinator.
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TCT...How do you go about using the Stampinator on fleece hoodies with the pocket?
I'm quoting a job now that has 200 sponge fleece hoodies.
Croft:
Does this really work as advertised? had never seen it before . what are the limitations other than fleece?
TCT:
--- Quote from: Logowear on January 26, 2021, 08:37:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: TCT on January 25, 2021, 10:31:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: ericheartsu on January 25, 2021, 10:03:35 AM ---
this is my argument for the stampinator:
-It is a roller and a flash in one unit.
that's it, game over!
--- End quote ---
Pretty much! We have not touched our iron since we got the stampanator. In fact if someone want to buy a ROQ Iron I'd be happy to sell ours.
We found that especially with like a sponge fleece garment the Iron would sometime move the garment a bit, this could be minimized with less pressure and some screwing around, but you can take all those things out of the equation if you use the Stampinator.
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TCT...How do you go about using the Stampinator on fleece hoodies with the pocket?
I'm quoting a job now that has 200 sponge fleece hoodies.
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SAME. We have a unwritten policy here, if you don't NEED to change something, DON'T!!! That being said when using the stampinator we don't use a TON of pressure. Just enough to cure/flatten. Think of it like backing pressure off your squeegee until the ink just clears the screen. If you were really concerned about it, you could just raise the rear off contact a hint also probably...
We are not probably the best to ask about this though as 97% of all fleece we print is Independent and we don't print plastisol on them.
Homer:
bumping this up.
Where did you end up on this? I'm more interested in the stampenator -however I see Brown makes the Anaconda, similar idea for a lot less coin and it would be adjustable print stroke on our presses.
zanegun08:
--- Quote from: Homer on July 28, 2023, 09:11:58 AM ---Brown makes the Anaconda, similar idea for a lot less coin and it would be adjustable print stroke on our presses.
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This is the same idea is an M&R Hot Head which you can get both with a heated roller or iron, or ROQ Iron. These work decent as smoothing screens, but need to be added after a flash and not used for curing of the ink. This can also push the garment / print or put creases into fabrics, probably less with a roller than the iron. The way they are showing it on the brown site it is moving so fast in the video I would bet it had no noticeable effect on the print.
Nothing can beat straight downward pressure, consistent heat, and time in smoothing and gelling of a base. An inline heat press can also be used at the end of a run to flatten and par cure all the colors.
Using an inline heat press on a printing press to apply transfers is kind of a gimmick in my opinion since you have to do so much modification to the press to get the pressure, I recommend getting a real dual station heat press or automatic heat press.
For hoodies, I would still recommend using a flash, and then pressing, it won't have as good of an effect due to pockets and zippers but it will still work. Though on a hoody a little more hand isn't as big of a deal in my opinion due to the garment being thick anyhow. Also plastisol, and especially poly inks that have some puff or blowing agent, even if pressed inline, when ran through a dryer to cure will raise back up some, which is why a post press in this case is superior but a second labor step.
In line heat press is one of the greatest tools for printing when used correctly, it's not a one tool fits all applications but for majority of apparel can really improve your prints, but it's often advertised in gimmicky ways, or operators don't use them since they don't really understand the benefits.
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