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We own and like several M&R machines in screen department. But their track record in DTG is, well lacking....
Quote from: BorisB on February 03, 2021, 12:07:29 AMWe own and like several M&R machines in screen department. But their track record in DTG is, well lacking....Personally, we have i-Images in our screen department. I am a lot more impressed with the Maverick and the work Michelle has been doing on the digital side of printing over their screen development technology. We have a digital squeegee that we have produced some awesome prints on. Michelle has really killed it with the R&D on the DS, right now we are happy with the images that the machine produces we are just anxiously waiting for the ink companies to continue catching up to the level of R&D that M&R has done for hybrid printing. Personally, I would take the Maverick over the Avalanche for a number of reasons. I started this thread to get some conversation flowing and get some ammunition to hit my finance and executive team with.
Quote from: tbarnes on February 03, 2021, 10:47:31 AMQuote from: BorisB on February 03, 2021, 12:07:29 AMWe own and like several M&R machines in screen department. But their track record in DTG is, well lacking....Personally, we have i-Images in our screen department. I am a lot more impressed with the Maverick and the work Michelle has been doing on the digital side of printing over their screen development technology. We have a digital squeegee that we have produced some awesome prints on. Michelle has really killed it with the R&D on the DS, right now we are happy with the images that the machine produces we are just anxiously waiting for the ink companies to continue catching up to the level of R&D that M&R has done for hybrid printing. Personally, I would take the Maverick over the Avalanche for a number of reasons. I started this thread to get some conversation flowing and get some ammunition to hit my finance and executive team with.What are the ink limitations you are seeing with the Hybrid technology? Is it with the digital inks or the bases and tie coats?
Our biggest complaint is the stiffness of the print from the final coat.
Couple months back I was close to pulling the trigger on my 3rd press and DS to go on it.
Quote from: tbarnes on February 03, 2021, 01:06:52 PMOur biggest complaint is the stiffness of the print from the final coat.Have you been doing any discharge bases? I'm wondering if you did discharge base with the top coat, and then flash / hot head or stamped it if you could get the feel you are after. Or even just a hot head or stamp before the dryer.Yes we use discharge base. I think one thing that set us back was using a full, solid underbase screen instead of dithering it and using halftones in it. That definitely makes the print feel heavier.We have been able to get it to feel really smooth and soft, but the larger images have a bit of a stiffness to them. I will let you guys know how the stiffness is effected by the new top coat we are getting. I think we are going to have really positive results. To help with your curiosity about using the hot head after the top coat, it will not help with the stiffness. If the print isn't smooth it will definitely help smooth it by flattening the surface. But it will not make the print feel softer or make it any less stiff. I did try that lol and tried heat pressing after curing too. Actually makes it feel even more stiff tbh. It is an awesome machine though and I would definitely stand by the purchase. Worth the money in my opinion.