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Also I'll follow up on the next post with the real issue with this one.
Quote from: zanegun08 on November 06, 2020, 01:40:23 PM Also I'll follow up on the next post with the real issue with this one.This is what happened on the white, this is on a 100% cotton ASColour blank which is probably one of the most ideal tees to print on since they are so tightly woven.Michelle is now working on dialing in the Maverick so hopefully this will be fixed, said it's something to do with head temperature.However, this to me is an unsellable tee, I'm sure 80% of people would be fine with it, however wether user error, equipment error, pretreat error, whatever it is, makes me apprehensive to contract out if that is what will get sent out with no pre-samples (adding time / cost), which again makes it not so viable for small orders.However, in reality we would just screen print this image, so I don't know if it is the best way to judge anyhow.
Why did they stop the M-Link for this newer equipment does anyone know?
the new EPSON is not an entry level machine. It is 72"'x 73" (so rather big and requires a lot of floor space) and it prints a full size front in about 45 seconds. It has redundancy built int as well as remote access from the factory service department and other industrial grade features. The cost of ink is much lower than the entry level printers your are thinking about. We are bellow $1 per print in ink as of right now (very early on in setup and testing though). If you get 2 the ink is $140 per liter and you can net over 100 shirts per hour. To get the same from Kornit you will have to pay about 3-4 times as much and will still be fighting the color gamut issues. List price is $50k, but by the time you are set up you are over $60k. With additional inks and maintenance consumables you are probably looking at $65k. I have a friend who had a factory with many, many Kornits and he says there is no comparison. It is not even close! pierre
Jumping back in this thread as I am starting to seriously consider the Epson machine as a contender. Anyone that is currently using the Epson Surecolor machine care to share any kind of consumption reports and/or production numbers with the class? I would love to jump on a call with somebody currently using it in their shop. No offense to the salesmen out there, but I hate getting my numbers from you people lol they always seem to be "in a perfect world" numbers and the print world is far from perfect.Thanks in advance.
no numbers yet. we are still testing and setting up (print on demand software and RIP are not yet fully configured).for a 12" wide image I am guessing about $1 in ink and $0.25 in pretreatment (EPSON stuff is expensive, but seems to work the best).Your cost will depend on how many you print per day. We have ours do a cleaning before printing. if you keep it running all day, you will not see many cleanings. If you stop for a bit (20 min?), it will clean again before printing. Lotsa starting and stopping will increase your maintenance expenses. Also, the cost of the printer is $11 per hour. If you only print 10 shirts per hour you will be adding a $1 to your cost. If you run 50 shirts per hour then your overhead is $0.20 per shirt. that is a big difference!I can answer any other questions if you have them.pierrep.s. we are putting down a lot of ink to make the prints really vibrant. Most shops would be OK with a lot less ink. I think $1 for ink and pretreatment might be possible.
Greetings,We are looking at adding a more efficient DTG machine given the current market. I am currently drafting a comparison of the M&R Maverick vs. the Kornit Avalanche. Does anyone have any input in comparing the two machines? Anyone currently own either machine and want to hit me with some pros and cons? Looking for maintenance, troubleshooting, pricing analysis (I never trust the salesman price analysis) etc. Any info is greatly appreciated.
We currently have an Avalanche (sold by Hirsh) at the time of purchase. All I can say, is that when our people (no longer here) let the heads dry up, it cost 80k to replace all heads. Add to that, if we wanted to incorporate the NEWer head system to accommodate bleeder garments such as Comfort colors, it would cost an additional 80k on top. Currently, It's a paper weight so if anyone wants to purchase one at a really good price, Call me. You would have to replace all print heads.