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ROQ Next- tell me the pros and cons please
ZooCity:
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--- Quote from: ZooCity on July 30, 2020, 08:01:14 PM ---Analog controls are superior.
Take that with a grain of salt. I also listen to vinyl and have recently been anxious about purchasing my first vehicle mfg past 1989.
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He also accesses this site via a dial up connection on his rotary dial phone.... ;D ;D
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Sounds like an upgrade compared to the cable internet around these parts.
nightheron:
I am deciding between at ROQ NEXT 10 color and a M&R Cobra 10 color. What do you recommend? Cheers, Jim Morris jimcmorris@gmailcom
tonypep:
Forty years with M&R and now the past two with ROQ. Love them, although theres no such thing as a perfect press that suits everyones needs. Withe ECO and YOU, the index drive is Geneva. The next uses a chain drive (more on that later). Main con with the former two uses a traffic light tower to tell the op when the pallet is in lock position. Seems like a simple mechanical spring loaded pin to set it in the required locking position without having to keep your eye on the tower would be an affordable upgrade. Also, on my machines at least, often when you break a safety bar you may have to walk over to the bar, reset, and back to the main to continue. Not always, it depends on the sequence of actions. Too many footprints. The pallet lock is spring lock and allows for multiple position settings however over time, the small nuts can loosen and be a bit of a pain to replace (if they fall off, they can be difficult to find). On my ECO, we have to replace squeegee chop solenoids twice and need to do it again. This requires removing the print arm as it is not easily accessible. Not for the timid.
That said, they are not over engineered and super easy to train new ops. Squeegee travel simple and manually controlled without kipps.
Back to the indexers. The Geneva allows the op to free wheel the pallets using the tower while the Next chain drive uses the half index mode and allows the op to send the pallet from head one to head 8 etc. without stopping at each station. Huge benefit on larger machines.
Also the Next has hugely upgraded analog main menu with no sub menues.
Interesting to know that M&R makes a lesser known press called the Copperhead which is basically a blue ROQ.
cleveprint:
Has anyone ever seen or have one of the Copperheads? Do they sell them in the US? They only intrigue me as they have a much smaller footprint than say a Cobra or Sportsman. Over 2 feet in diameter in some cases. Our building is long and skinny and I am limited by space. Our two presses now are jammed in and Id love to have a press with more colors. There is very little out there on them besides what's on the MR site.
AntonySharples:
I got a couple Copperheads out in the wild. Have a couple more going out. It's made in India by DNN, which from my understanding is the largest press manufacturer in the world (could be wrong). After running a Roq for 10 years, I can say it's a great press, easy to run, easy to train a new operator, easy to set up. To me it brings the best of both worlds together. I'm a big fan. The Cobra is my favorite press out there right now, but for the money, Copperhead is pretty sweet. I'd say it's on par with a Sportsman, just built like a Roq (Euro design).
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