What we are getting for Christmas

[blue moon]

So, let's see if we can now proceed in a less personal direction, and....play nice.

Come on dude I was about to send a link to RDUBYABEEE on this. Have a good old fashion Royal Rumble.

Where is the like button when you need one? Somebody should tell the moderators!
Pj

[1964GN]

You can actually order the Roq's both ways, pins or not.

I don't think that true any more. They are no longer offering pin reg. If you want it it's a custom head build, and they will probably try and talk you out of it.

[merchmonster]

How long before he requests I’m banned from this forum, too?



I am not a doubter. I just think it’d be easier to prove the claims than to call me a doubter or paint me green.

It only makes me wonder if something is being hidden when it’s so much easier to prove your claim than to run around discrediting me.

no clue, but posting a private message on this forum got you banned from the other one.

ps the logo at the top says no trolls. someone ban this troll.

have a nice day.

Bet you Jon took time out of his day to snitch on me here too.

No one knew who that message was from until you claimed it.


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you are a dry snitch. go google that

[merchmonster]

i dont know when it became acceptable for people to go post parts of private conversations on social media / forums but it is not / will never be if you want to be anywhere close to having a conversation with me ever again. the end and bye.

[ebscreen]

You can actually order the Roq's both ways, pins or not.

I don't think that true any more. They are no longer offering pin reg. If you want it it's a custom head build, and they will probably try and talk you our of it.

They tried to talk me IN to custom heads to fit our MHM pins! Cost was pretty steep, and that was 5 years ago now....

End result with a little fiddling on reg pallet/fpu, our MHM and Roq's play along nicely.

[Biverson]

not to derail this interesting read but what is the purpose of the welded cups?

Is that specific to MHM presses? I remember being at a shop years ago that had those but I thought it was to do with table printing.

Hey Rusty,

Jon explained it but here's a pic of how the cups and pins work.

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[CBCB]

i dont know when it became acceptable for people to go post parts of private conversations on social media / forums but it is not / will never be if you want to be anywhere close to having a conversation with me ever again. the end and bye.

Sorry again! I understand where you’re coming from now.


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[DannyGruninger]

You can actually order the Roq's both ways, pins or not.

I don't think that true any more. They are no longer offering pin reg. If you want it it's a custom head build, and they will probably try and talk you out of it.

Roq will build anything under certain requests..... Even presses with mhm heads lol.... They have roqs out there with mhm auto reg style heads on them just fyi

[1964GN]

You can actually order the Roq's both ways, pins or not.

I don't think that true any more. They are no longer offering pin reg. If you want it it's a custom head build, and they will probably try and talk you out of it.

Roq will build anything under certain requests..... Even presses with mhm heads lol.... They have roqs out there with mhm auto reg style heads on them just fyi

Pinned from and back like MHM? Interesting.

[DannyGruninger]

Jumping in here as I saw a few posts(didn't read everything) that I wanted to add my 2 cents to. For whatever that's worth LOL...... It's such a huge bummer that these discussions always end up resembling press wars/personal attacks instead of real discussions that can help move the industry forward. Most people know me for helping the roq team out but the reality is I believe in a lot of the products and machines that other companies are building/selling. If I had my way I would take a lot of stuff from all of them to build what I think would be the ideal machine but the reality that I've seen is between mhm, roq, and m&r if you really focus on dialing in the foundation they give you then they will all be quite similar in terms of production. Our roq presses have ran, ran and ran without issues(one press is way north of 3 million prints) so we couldn't be more thrilled with them at this point but every shop will have varied levels of success depending on what they put into it. I spent a ton of time making our process what it is and feel I could do the same with mhm or m&r if I was given that opportunity but really I just wanted to jump in here and break the ice that I really wished people weren't looking for that green vs blue vs bluer as it really doesn't help our industry. If what Bryce and these guys at 40mm are doing with mhm is super successful I'm really glad they are sharing it as its only going to make the other guys come up with a better solution. Jon Potter has extended his hand to me on a few occasions now and I can confidently say I've gained a lot of respect for Jon and mhm as a brand over the last several months. I can only hope roq, mhm, m&r and whoever can put the press wars aside and realize the competition within the industry is healthy and there's a correct way about going about all the press discussions. So with all that said, please keep sharing your progress, what advantages and disadvantages your experiencing as imo its valuable information everyone can look into but everyone really should check their press war bullshit at the front door because it does nothing. Hell give me a brown or some off brand press and within a few months I bet I can make the bitch sing LOL......... but really guys, lets move the industry forward..... at the end of the day our clients are what matter and we should be using whatever technology can best service them...... that might be green, blue, bluer, pink, red, who fu*&kin cares anymore

 

[MHMJP]

So, bottom line, I think that we have now heard both sides of the story, and many here probably are a lot less interested than the two major players are.

So, let's see if we can now proceed in a less personal direction, and....play nice.

It really rubs me the wrong way when people post things that are blatantly wrong.

Here's the thread that Jon said he made... and that I was rude on apparently. He commented to email him and I requested he just post the info for efficiency's sake.



I can't see his comments because he has blocked me.

If you want to see both sides of the story then tell Jon to unblock me so I can post my comments, or to post his example of me being rude himself.

I am constantly posting about my love for efficiency and reducing waste in our industry.

In my opinion I think our industry doesn't need someone who spreads misinformation and deny requests to back up claims.

I want faster setups. If the setups are faster then lets see. Someone has offered you 10k and it's literally his job to answer these questions.

But he spends his day trying to take the high road or paint me to be a jerk.

It's him who blocked me after pointing out how much more efficient it would be FOR HIM to just reply with the info in my thread. But here he is trying to paint a picture of me coming into his thread and being rude when it was the opposite.

Drives me nuts. Of course I'm going to reply to this thread. You're not feeding the trolls I'm just correcting the blatantly wrong FACTS that I see. I have never said ROQ was better, I had probably the worst install of all time and our setups are nowhere Danny's.

So when someone says we can get faster setups with less calibration then I definitely want to see that. That's not someone's opinion being presented it's being presented as a fact so I would like to see it verified. And it's way easier to verify and sell me a press than to spend all this time challenging me.

Hold the phone up.

At no point in my previous post did I state that I made the thread?

My post stated 'As you stated previously your little dispute started when you were extremely rude to me regarding a simple pair of squeegee cutters. As you stated in a previous post above, I posted a picture of these cutters and asked folks to message me if interested. You then posted a DEMAND that I just immediately tell the three people who replied where to buy them from rather than them message me.'

My post of the pic of squeegee cutters was a reply on your thread A YEAR AGO, it did not state otherwise. You clearly aren't reading/understanding things correctly. Who cares anyway? I would've sent you these for free just to help you if you hadn't been so rude.

Again once you are prepared to discuss matters in an adult and business-like fashion then please feel free to contact me directly. Until that point you need to be cautious in respect of what you write publicly regarding people you've never met or actually spoken to.

I feel everyone on here has already seen through this episode and are probably bored of it so maybe its time you gave up before embarrassing yourself any further. I blocked you on various forums so I didn't have to read or reply to such petty bullshit, its laughable. I'm not the one who's constantly posting, I've simply replied twice to your posts today, I blocked you many months ago as it was too ridiculous to waste any further time on. Surely your love of 'efficiency' might've led you to do the same?

I am trying to be respectful here, but its not me who's making online videos of how to educate printers in terms of efficiency but then making a post on the Facebook group 'SCREEN PRINT PROS' asking 'How do you cut squeegees - without it looking like a hack job'.

I don't feel I need to say anything further.

[MHMJP]

Jumping in here as I saw a few posts(didn't read everything) that I wanted to add my 2 cents to. For whatever that's worth LOL...... It's such a huge bummer that these discussions always end up resembling press wars/personal attacks instead of real discussions that can help move the industry forward. Most people know me for helping the roq team out but the reality is I believe in a lot of the products and machines that other companies are building/selling. If I had my way I would take a lot of stuff from all of them to build what I think would be the ideal machine but the reality that I've seen is between mhm, roq, and m&r if you really focus on dialing in the foundation they give you then they will all be quite similar in terms of production. Our roq presses have ran, ran and ran without issues(one press is way north of 3 million prints) so we couldn't be more thrilled with them at this point but every shop will have varied levels of success depending on what they put into it. I spent a ton of time making our process what it is and feel I could do the same with mhm or m&r if I was given that opportunity but really I just wanted to jump in here and break the ice that I really wished people weren't looking for that green vs blue vs bluer as it really doesn't help our industry. If what Bryce and these guys at 40mm are doing with mhm is super successful I'm really glad they are sharing it as its only going to make the other guys come up with a better solution. Jon Potter has extended his hand to me on a few occasions now and I can confidently say I've gained a lot of respect for Jon and mhm as a brand over the last several months. I can only hope roq, mhm, m&r and whoever can put the press wars aside and realize the competition within the industry is healthy and there's a correct way about going about all the press discussions. So with all that said, please keep sharing your progress, what advantages and disadvantages your experiencing as imo its valuable information everyone can look into but everyone really should check their press war bullshit at the front door because it does nothing. Hell give me a brown or some off brand press and within a few months I bet I can make the bitch sing LOL......... but really guys, lets move the industry forward..... at the end of the day our clients are what matter and we should be using whatever technology can best service them...... that might be green, blue, bluer, pink, red, who fu*&kin cares anymore

 

Great comment Danny, the respect is mutual and hopefully this kind of thinking and diplomacy will bring us all together for the better. I tell my team to never lose sight of the fact that we should all be friends before competitors. Sharing knowledge is very gratifying and rewarding, we are here to help people be successful, that's the real goal.

[1964GN]

Thanks for chiming in Danny. The press wars will continue as long as there are attention seekers. All of these presses can print money if you spend the time to dial in your processes. Most don't though.

[rusty]

not to derail this interesting read but what is the purpose of the welded cups?

Is that specific to MHM presses? I remember being at a shop years ago that had those but I thought it was to do with table printing.

Hey Rusty,

Jon explained it but here's a pic of how the cups and pins work.

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Ah cool. Now I get it! I am not looking for a new press or anything but like most people in this industry I have a desire to know how everything is done/works/etc  Thanks for sharing that pic I appreciate it. Knowledge is power. Like others have said lets move the industry forward.

[RICK STEFANICK]

Jumping in here as I saw a few posts(didn't read everything) that I wanted to add my 2 cents to. For whatever that's worth LOL...... It's such a huge bummer that these discussions always end up resembling press wars/personal attacks instead of real discussions that can help move the industry forward. Most people know me for helping the roq team out but the reality is I believe in a lot of the products and machines that other companies are building/selling. If I had my way I would take a lot of stuff from all of them to build what I think would be the ideal machine but the reality that I've seen is between mhm, roq, and m&r if you really focus on dialing in the foundation they give you then they will all be quite similar in terms of production. Our roq presses have ran, ran and ran without issues(one press is way north of 3 million prints) so we couldn't be more thrilled with them at this point but every shop will have varied levels of success depending on what they put into it. I spent a ton of time making our process what it is and feel I could do the same with mhm or m&r if I was given that opportunity but really I just wanted to jump in here and break the ice that I really wished people weren't looking for that green vs blue vs bluer as it really doesn't help our industry. If what Bryce and these guys at 40mm are doing with mhm is super successful I'm really glad they are sharing it as its only going to make the other guys come up with a better solution. Jon Potter has extended his hand to me on a few occasions now and I can confidently say I've gained a lot of respect for Jon and mhm as a brand over the last several months. I can only hope roq, mhm, m&r and whoever can put the press wars aside and realize the competition within the industry is healthy and there's a correct way about going about all the press discussions. So with all that said, please keep sharing your progress, what advantages and disadvantages your experiencing as imo its valuable information everyone can look into but everyone really should check their press war bullshit at the front door because it does nothing. Hell give me a brown or some off brand press and within a few months I bet I can make the bitch sing LOL......... but really guys, lets move the industry forward..... at the end of the day our clients are what matter and we should be using whatever technology can best service them...... that might be green, blue, bluer, pink, red, who fu*&kin cares anymore

 

Great comment Danny, the respect is mutual and hopefully this kind of thinking and diplomacy will bring us all together for the better. I tell my team to never lose sight of the fact that we should all be friends before competitors. Sharing knowledge is very gratifying and rewarding, we are here to help people be successful, that's the real goal.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE COMMENTS!! WELL SAID!!  Unfortunately the reality is there will always be the shops and entrepreneurs that know it all. I have been in this Industry for a few years and there is a need more than ever for wisdom and direction in most shops I have the opportunity to talk to. Press and equipment selection are important but whats more important is shop systems, flow, scheduling etc. That is what separates the men from the boys, The successful growth positioned shops  from average. Someone once told me the customer doesn't know or care what his garments were printed on as long as they look great. That said a person should be buying equipment weather its blue, green, brown or purple based on the systems set -up to be ultra efficient. not all presses do the same thing, We put the horse ahead of the cart. You really cannot make or argue about a brand when all shops needs and industry position at the time vary. Like I said I have a few years under my belt and I am not still in this industry because of being closed minded and stuck. The industry is evolving and its still super exciting to be apart of that. just sayin man