Decorating Fire Retardant shirts.

[Frog]

As far as I remember, most inks void the safety certification of these, right?
This is the shirt they want printed. They even asked about embroidery.
https://www.magidglove.com/Tingley-JobSight-S85522-Class-3-FR-High-Visibility-Long-Sleeve-T-Shirt-S85522XL.aspx?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Merchant%20Center&utm_campaign=Product%20Feed&gdffi=7517adbfe2dc4813a56a4a3835e1f8e9&gdfms=9AA1804DACBA4BF28C606A87F08D3D39&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9-EyNj75AIVF9tkCh0BgACbEAkYASABEgLQkfD_BwE

[Doug B]

  As far as embroidery, I believe Madeira sells fire retardant threads that are certified. Don't quite know about printing.

[BP]

Frog, we print them all the time. I really think it is about the high vis more then the fire retardant shirt.

[Frog]

Frog, we print them all the time. I really think it is about the high vis more then the fire retardant shirt.

You mean that you don't think that your clients care about it losing it's rating?

[mk162]

Rutland makes an FR additive, we add it EVERY time we do them.  I like covering my @ss.

https://www.rutlandinc.com/ink-product/npt-flame-retardant-additive/

[BP]

Most of the customer we do them for are trucking company. And so of the them are fire retardant but is because the customer likes the style.

[mk162]

We do some FR shirts for our local water system.  They don't get FR thread or ink, they do it for the style of shirt.  The ones that go to the power company do though.

[Frog]

This is for an Electric Company, and he is the one who started the converstaion with "We have some flame retardant shirts"
Of course, I'll have to check with him if these are for style or substance.

[RICK STEFANICK]

It all come s down to the amount of coverage of the embellishment. That's why most embroidery is not enough coverage to require FR thread. I think its really only required on retail sleepwear for the most part now. I like the idea of running the Rutland FR additive as a precaution though.

[Croft]

I dont really think you can put anything on these shirts and have any expectation of being 100% compliant in the eyes of any legal action, The shirt manufacturer probably didn't either . Likely the fabric weaver which most likely
is a large company got the fabric certification I doubt any cut and sew shop would have.
Short answer I have always felt is that you will have nothing to stand on if you do anything to the shirt, In the cases where I do print them it is crystal clear that it is for decoration NOT safety and the customer signs off on that.

[Frog]

I dont really think you can put anything on these shirts and have any expectation of being 100% compliant in the eyes of any legal action, The shirt manufacturer probably didn't either . Likely the fabric weaver which most likely
is a large company got the fabric certification I doubt any cut and sew shop would have.
Short answer I have always felt is that you will have nothing to stand on if you do anything to the shirt, In the cases where I do print them it is crystal clear that it is for decoration NOT safety and the customer signs off on that.

I passed on it, reminding myself of my new rule during my gradual retirement: PASS ON THE POTENTIAL PITA OR STRESSFUL JOBS!

[numbercruncher]

Didn't there used to be foils that were fire retardant

[mk162]

I passed on it, reminding myself of my new rule during my gradual retirement: PASS ON THE POTENTIAL PITA OR STRESSFUL JOBS!

People should do this even if they aren't thinking of retirement.  I can't tell you how many people I either price way too high or send to another shop.

[Frog]

I passed on it, reminding myself of my new rule during my gradual retirement: PASS ON THE POTENTIAL PITA OR STRESSFUL JOBS!

People should do this even if they aren't thinking of retirement.  I can't tell you how many people I either price way too high or send to another shop.

A little tougher for me as that was the exact niche I claimed in my area when I started. I was compensated for it, and enjoyed those higher margins, as well as the satisfaction of tackling problems what many others (the smart ones) wouldn't.
This getting old and and getting away from the work I've done for so long is not coming easy. Even semi-retirement is a work in progress.