Magna Print Killer Base

[RICK STEFANICK]

How about wash tests? How did it hold up?
Is the cure time/settings through the dryer different considering it's HSA? 
How did it perform on press with flashing? Did you have to change your flash temps or dwell time?

Quick white is our jam, we love how fast it flashes and so little tak on the next screen.

We keep our plastisol prints separated from our WB/DC/HSA prints since the drying/curing variables are so different.  On a rare occasion we'll do a discharge base with plastisol top colors, but we've had mixed results through extended wash tests.

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The week after next I will post more detailed results. Maybe Eric and brandon could chime back in they run these products daily. Quick white is our go to also,

[ericheartsu]

we almost exclusively use matsui ink here, and we build all of our inks for every job. So we have all sorts of additives in our inks. I do not know how that compares or contrasts to magna.

We cure our jobs anywhere from 280 to 340 degrees, and keep goods in the chamber for 1m 30 seconds to 2m.

wash tests: so far we havent' had any failures. Even on personal shirts i have where we wash and wear multiple times a week, zero to no cracking/breaking of the ink.

[3Deep]

First I didn't read every post here so I might be asking something after ready mentioned, but anyway we've use a DC underbase with plastisol on top and wow the print was great and wash test was great.  Now the problem there s every shirt order we print here want discharge, how do you get around that or does a good water base white ink print nice and bright as a underbase?   If I could use DC/waterbase white inks for an underbase on all shirt colors and blends I'd love that a bunch.

[ericheartsu]

First I didn't read every post here so I might be asking something after ready mentioned, but anyway we've use a DC underbase with plastisol on top and wow the print was great and wash test was great.  Now the problem there s every shirt order we print here want discharge, how do you get around that or does a good water base white ink print nice and bright as a underbase?   If I could use DC/waterbase white inks for an underbase on all shirt colors and blends I'd love that a bunch.

if the shirt is non discharagable, you use HSA waterbase to fill that gap, and print it with an underbase. In fact, we regularly will print HSA on garments that are discharge friendly, depending on the client, and what the purpose of the shirts are for.

[DannyGruninger]

First I didn't read every post here so I might be asking something after ready mentioned, but anyway we've use a DC underbase with plastisol on top and wow the print was great and wash test was great.  Now the problem there s every shirt order we print here want discharge, how do you get around that or does a good water base white ink print nice and bright as a underbase?   If I could use DC/waterbase white inks for an underbase on all shirt colors and blends I'd love that a bunch.

if the shirt is non discharagable, you use HSA waterbase to fill that gap, and print it with an underbase. In fact, we regularly will print HSA on garments that are discharge friendly, depending on the client, and what the purpose of the shirts are for.

Preach it brother 

[RICK STEFANICK]

I just ordered 120 kg of the product. The reason it is so appealing here besides the obvious benefits is we can run prints with the same inks we ran when we sampled the designs with a plastisol base and most retail production may have 2-3 different style garments with the same art. The 3 we did yesterday were right on the money in fact the colors were slightly briter and a truer match. Flash times were actually faster than with the quick white.

[rusty]

Where are you ordering from? Would like to try this out but nazda doesn’t seem to have much in stock.
Does GSG have stock ready?

[im_mcguire]

Where are you ordering from? Would like to try this out but nazda doesn’t seem to have much in stock.
Does GSG have stock ready?

I got my sample by requesting it from Magna Print Direct via email.

info@magnacolours.com

[RICK STEFANICK]

Where are you ordering from? Would like to try this out but nazda doesn’t seem to have much in stock.
Does GSG have stock ready?

NAZ DAR HAS 120KG QTYS IN CALIFORNIA BUT CAN SHIP 5 KG AND 20 KG OUT OF FLORIDA.. THEY HAVE STOCK. Sorry about the caps not yelling

[im_mcguire]

Where are you ordering from? Would like to try this out but nazda doesn’t seem to have much in stock.
Does GSG have stock ready?

I got my sample by requesting it from Magna Print Direct via email.

info@magnacolours.com

I might add, that I did ask Nazdar first, and they would not ship out a sample.  I then contacted Magna, and they had Nazdar ship out a sample.  So if nazdar gives you any guff, hit up magna.  But I would go through Nazdar first.

[RICK STEFANICK]

Our rep for NAZ DAR out here is Chad. He is very good in regards to samples.

[Maff]

Ok so to rephrase a bit here. I guess I'm just curious how the adhesion of plastisol on HSA holds up in the wash? 
And does it require longer dwell time in the dryer?

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[RICK STEFANICK]

We ran at 10ft/ min with 12 ft of heat with the temp set at 340 degrees.. We did 5 wash tests and yoiu could not tell the print had been washed. I don't think it needs that much retention time though. we just sent off also for Disney testing. The killer base was formulated to over print with plastisol and that's how they are marketing it. Atotally different situation than overprinting discharge with plastisol.

[Rockers]

We ran at 10ft/ min with 12 ft of heat with the temp set at 340 degrees.. We did 5 wash tests and yoiu could not tell the print had been washed. I don't think it needs that much retention time though. we just sent off also for Disney testing. The killer base was formulated to over print with plastisol and that's how they are marketing it. Atotally different situation than overprinting discharge with plastisol.

Let me quote the Data Sheet for the Magna Killerbase
"After printing the garment/panel should be cured, ideally for 1½- 2 minutes at 155-165°C (310 - 330°F) *or in line with plastisol ink curing requirements. "

[RICK STEFANICK]

We ran at 10ft/ min with 12 ft of heat with the temp set at 340 degrees.. We did 5 wash tests and yoiu could not tell the print had been washed. I don't think it needs that much retention time though. we just sent off also for Disney testing. The killer base was formulated to over print with plastisol and that's how they are marketing it. Atotally different situation than overprinting discharge with plastisol.

Let me quote the Data Sheet for the Magna Killerbase
"After printing the garment/panel should be cured, ideally for 1½- 2 minutes at 155-165°C (310 - 330°F) *or in line with plastisol ink curing requirements. "

Thanks Its great to have a base line.