Bella Canvas problems

[IntegriTees]

Anyone else having problems with Bella Canvas?  I had a nightmare job where different cases of oatmeal shirts were turning yellow going through the dryer.  Only specific cases as I hadn't changed anything through the job.

Then just got some heather peach in the 3001cvc, printed it exactly how I did the first time, and I'm getting a yellowing on the BACK of the shirt where the print is.

[CBCB]

Yep. Ate x100 of their baseball tee. All the new ‘Cvc heathers’ or whatever are officially bleeders now. Deep Heather can suck it soft!! Lol


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[brandon]

So weird. These have been ongoing problems for us with Next Level. Bella Canvas has been problem free for us. Weird!

[GoWestRob]

We've been having problems with both NL and Bella/Canvas, but mostly with Bella/Canvas lately.  We sent samples, their official response was that we had migration because we didn't use a blocker.  So does that mean that they suggest a blocker on everything with poly in it?  It was tough to chase around.  But thankfully our buddies at the Ink Kitchen tested every single shirt in the Cotton, CVC and Tri-blend fabrics and gave a rating and recommendation for each color.  Their recommendations matched up with our poor results perfectly, all colors that we had issues with were they ones they rated as needing a blocker.

Here is the reference guide -
https://www.bellacanvas.com/printing-recommendations

We had our printing notes from previous jobs that mentioned that no blockers were needed, only to find things migrating on recent runs...so keep in mind you'll have mixed stock from different production runs and what worked in the past might not work now.  Our rep confirmed that the ones that were migrating for us were from their recent dye formulas/processes.  So probably stick to that guide.

Hey Ink Kitchen guys, thanks for doing this.  You've saved us a bunch of work and from printing too many rejects!

[Nation03]

a few weeks ago I did about 1100 Heather Prism Mint 3001CVC shirts. I didn't seem to have a problem with discoloring but I did need to speed my belt up a little because it looked like I was getting some shrinking from them.

[brandon]

Hey, thanks for posting the IK link. Pam, Rick, and Tom are awesome people and know what they are talking about.

[Pangea]

Here is the reference guide -
https://www.bellacanvas.com/printing-recommendations

Hey Ink Kitchen guys, thanks for doing this.  You've saved us a bunch of work and from printing too many rejects!

So awesome they did this for the community. I've had that link bookmarked since it was put out for the DC ratings and so far it's been accurate.

[mk162]

We just ran a few hundred 3001cvc's and man the amount of holes and stains on the shirts was crazy.  They even put the little inspection stickers on the shirts and still sent them unusable.

I have almost zero problems with Next Level though.

[RICK STEFANICK]

We just ran a few hundred 3001cvc's and man the amount of holes and stains on the shirts was crazy.  They even put the little inspection stickers on the shirts and still sent them unusable.

I have almost zero problems with Next Level though.

We run 50-60,000 units a week between both brands and we have had no notable issues. 90 percent are black and grey though.

[ZooCity]

Nobody likes it but we use a performance base on practically all blends, across all brands.   These issues came up generally speaking a few years back and I couldn't tell you if it's better/worse since a grey performance base prints on all of them here so we wouldn't know.

[ffokazak]

I just had some new CVC Bellas migrate on us, but unlike anything I've ever witnessed....

Patchy migration.

Every shirt different, but about half of the logos we printed were migrating throughout the middles, but in completely random patterns....

So strange...

[CBCB]

I just had some new CVC Bellas migrate on us, but unlike anything I've ever witnessed....

Patchy migration.

Every shirt different, but about half of the logos we printed were migrating throughout the middles, but in completely random patterns....

So strange...

Same for us.

A heads up on the change from Bella or the distributors would have been nice. Or did I miss something?


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[Prince Art]

Are those of you experiencing problems using standard cure temps? Is anyone having these problems with low-cure inks (300F & lower)?

[RICK STEFANICK]

I just had some new CVC Bellas migrate on us, but unlike anything I've ever witnessed....

Patchy migration.

Every shirt different, but about half of the logos we printed were migrating throughout the middles, but in completely random patterns....

So strange...

Guys , Usually when migration looks that way your under curing?

[ffokazak]

We run M&R gas dryers, and I'm pretty sure they sound an alarm if they go under a certain temp, so I don't think it is under cured...

also this particular job looked fine out of the dryer, and only migrated once it was shipped and the client received them...

So odd.