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Offline Doug S

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My 1st attempt at waterbase
« on: January 07, 2019, 02:34:02 PM »
We are dead in the water at the moment so I'm finally playing around with the sample of Magna Aquaflex V2 ink I received back in July.  I'm just wanting to know from you all experienced waterbased printers if this is what you'd expect from your prints or would this be trash?  If this wouldn't be acceptable, I know it's probably something I've done wrong.

I used a 75 duro squeegee and double-stroked  flashed & double-stroke through a 150/48.  I'm asking because it's not as white as I'm used to with the wilflex quick white I usually use.  All I have is infrared flashes so I know that's not ideal and would probably keep me from jumping into long runs.  I love how easy the cleanup is though.  Thanks in advance for any opinions or advice.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2019, 02:37:07 PM »
i don't think it looks bad. Once the water and solvents start to evaporate, you'll be left with a tackier ink, but it can add to the opacity as well.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2019, 02:37:27 PM »
Also, I forgot to mention that I heated the tables to 160 F and the screen was coated 2/1 with Murakami T9.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2019, 02:51:03 PM »
Also, I forgot to mention that I heated the tables to 160 F and the screen was coated 2/1 with Murakami T9.

Others can chime in, but 2/1 for us a bit thick.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2019, 04:54:27 PM »
Thanks for the feedback.  I notice the feel isn't as softhand as I thought it would be.  It is softer than if I had used the same screen for plastisol.  Going to a 1/1 coat may help with that.  I'm completely new to water base, I was trying to recall some of the things that were mentioned at the class I went to but I've slept since then.  So any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2019, 05:05:47 PM »
HSA ink i'd say is more stretchy than plastisol, and feels more rubber like. but alot of the same principals apply, in terms of deposit, that they do with plastisol.
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2019, 05:47:26 PM »
I don't have much experience with HSA... but one time I did get a left chest design from a customer that included Algerian font LOL.

I think the white is passable, but it depends on your customer expectations as always.

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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2019, 06:31:15 PM »
We have to use 3 whites to get a passable white with HSA.  No matter if it is Magna, Virus, Matsui.

Something with small coverage we can get away with two.

Is there a reason you aren't using white discharge?  What shirt are you printing on?

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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2019, 06:39:19 PM »

We have to use 3 whites to get a passable white with HSA.  No matter if it is Magna, Virus, Matsui.

Something with small coverage we can get away with two.

Is there a reason you aren't using white discharge?  What shirt are you printing on?




I was just printing this on 2000's and Hammer shirts that we had in stock.  I just wanted to experiment with hsa.  I liked  the idea of the shorter cure time than required for discharge since my mini sprint has the stock 8 ft chamber. 
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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2019, 06:43:58 PM »
Try 3 hits, then you'll be happy with the result and hand.

And make sure you wash test!

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Re: My 1st attempt at waterbase
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2019, 06:51:46 PM »
Here is a scrap shirt i just pulled out of our tester bin.

Upper Left Hand Corner - White DC
Right hand White - White HSA (base/flash/hightlight)
Botton - White HSA (no base)

Typically when we run HSA, we run lower. So for instance in this pic, our Right sided print, was done with a 135 base, and a 122 highlight.

Also it's a bad pic. sorry!
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