What job to print on a new auto?

[blue moon]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

[GraphicDisorder]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

That's not the presses fault though, that's a limitation of the screen not the press.  So ya of course you have to use larger screens.

We get 23"-24" out of our Sportsman EX with 25x36's

[inkman996]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

Yea Pierre I understand except I am using the max screen size of 35" length.

One of the things I was excited about with the new press was the ability to print 20" down pant legs it is something we do tons of (pants legs) but I always hated being limited in length. 17" is my safe length now, gee I had that on the Javelin.

[GraphicDisorder]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

Yea Pierre I understand except I am using the max screen size of 35" length.

One of the things I was excited about with the new press was the ability to print 20" down pant legs it is something we do tons of (pants legs) but I always hated being limited in length. 17" is my safe length now, gee I had that on the Javelin.

Did you have to have custom 35 inch screens made?  36 is the normal.  Never seen a 35.

[blue moon]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

Yea Pierre I understand except I am using the max screen size of 35" length.

One of the things I was excited about with the new press was the ability to print 20" down pant legs it is something we do tons of (pants legs) but I always hated being limited in length. 17" is my safe length now, gee I had that on the Javelin.

Did you have to have custom 35 inch screens made?  36 is the normal.  Never seen a 35.

I actually did have the 35" screens made. 36" supposedly does not fit. So if there is a downfall to this press, it is a shorter stroke length and need for the custom screens to get to the advertised size. On the other hand, with custom screens and oversized plattens, we can go to almost 28" wide. Now that's WIDE!

pierre

pierre

[GraphicDisorder]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

Yea Pierre I understand except I am using the max screen size of 35" length.

One of the things I was excited about with the new press was the ability to print 20" down pant legs it is something we do tons of (pants legs) but I always hated being limited in length. 17" is my safe length now, gee I had that on the Javelin.

Did you have to have custom 35 inch screens made?  36 is the normal.  Never seen a 35.

I actually did have the 35" screens made. 36" supposedly does not fit. So if there is a downfall to this press, it is a shorter stroke length and need for the custom screens to get to the advertised size. On the other hand, with custom screens and oversized plattens, we can go to almost 28" wide. Now that's WIDE!

pierre

pierre

Weird, 36" fits in mine all day long.  I think I could even take a little bigger one than that if needed.

I am still confused, the press prints exactly what it claims it will print right?  What screens you load it in, its not the presses fault.  You obviously have to put enough gas in a car to drive X distance, same as you have to put the correct screen in a press to print X distance.  Right?

[inkman996]

Brandt 35" is the max screen I can get in it. And i had to order them custom. I have a 36 already and it does not fit period. Regardless with a lot of tweaking and headaches and some press modifications you can get 18" but quality suffers so I am now sticking to 17".

[GraphicDisorder]

Brandt 35" is the max screen I can get in it. And i had to order them custom. I have a 36 already and it does not fit period. Regardless with a lot of tweaking and headaches and some press modifications you can get 18" but quality suffers so I am now sticking to 17".

So even with a 35" screen you can only do 17-18? 

I can print 17ish on a 23x31. 

[3Deep]

Inkman I thought you got a new press, because the other would not print the size you wanted or is this the same press your messing with again?

Darryl

[squeegee]

Being that we were already experienced auto printers we did not want to bother with a simple one color. We were looking for a six color spot on light to test the machines registration. We did not get one but we did run a 4 color job and verified the machine was tight.

Frog funny you mentioned the advertised print area, just this Friday I once again tried to print 18" in lenght and could not pull it off I had to walk away from the thing before I had a nervous break down, but what am I whinning about, 18 is only two less than the advertised 20 lol.

speaking of stroke length . . . the E-type is also advertised as having a 20" long print area, but we could not get past 17". It turns out it will do 21", but not on the regular auto sized screens (23x31). We had to order a longer size to be able to print full length.

pierre

Pierre,

We get 20" long prints from our E-types without a problem, 23 x 31 frames.

[inkman996]

Daryll Every time we had a buyer for the press asdf sabotaged it and I have actual proof, something for lawyers to deal with down the road.

ON my old ass Javelin with 23x31 screens I could get 17"

[blue moon]

Pierre,

We get 20" long prints from our E-types without a problem, 23 x 31 frames.

hmm, 'just went and checked, and 20" is not happening on my press unless the floodbar does not clear the image (which leaves a line in the print). Not that it matters much though, we can print the longer stuff now, so it's OK.

pierre

[squeegee]

I know about the fine line from the flood, we set our micros inwards a smigen and changed indicating flag back to zero to allow the flood to clear the image (there's still more than enough vertical adjustment).  Anyway was just trying to help.

[ZooCity]

Less than 18" print length for multi-color is unacceptable to me.  We can do that with our 25x30s and can print longer if it's single color, trapped, or the reg is not critical.  That sucks inkman, I wish you luck in moving along if you can. 

I'm surprised that the MHM E-type (not surprised about the asdf press) needs a weirdo 35" screen length.  I mean, you could easily order newmans with a custom length to the long rollers or custom fabbed alum statics but what a pain in the arse.  It's one more inch to get to standard, why not just build the machine to accommodate?

Pierre, you mention getting a 28" wide print on the E-type so what's the max screen width? and how many color is yours?

And more along the lines of the actual thread topic, I'm an auto-press virgin but on any machine, new or used, I would test each head for repeatability at some point.  Print a design with 55lpi halftones with a white.  Flash it, do a color change to something bright that will contrast the white and the shirt color and print again at identical settings.  If the dots are stacking perfectly you have repeatability on that head.  The ink will, of course need to be similar in rheology for this test, you'll want to pre-flash the test substrates and you'd probably need to do a full round off the carousel.  I think I read about this from murakami, they sugggested using it as a standard for determining if you whole crew can print to repeatability on a manual. 

Bill hood also made some type of test file for testing press registration, I think action offers it for free or with their o.c. calibration device.

[Gabe]

go ahead print something you already know how to print pop your cherry