UPS for I-Image STE

[AAMike]

Does anyone use a back-up power supply for their I-Image. We are tired of coming in after a night where the power flickered off and the machine needs to be cleaned and heads purged. It's a real PITA.

[blue moon]

Does anyone use a back-up power supply for their I-Image. We are tired of coming in after a night where the power flickered off and the machine needs to be cleaned and heads purged. It's a real PITA.

we use it on our original I-Image (rocket launcher). You might need to get a bigger version that is a bit pricey, but for an expensive piece of equipment like that, it really is a must.

pierre

[RICK STEFANICK]

Thank you for suggesting that. We have a new I-Image coming in with all the other new m/r equipment.

[tonypep]

Check in with Dan C here he would be my best recommendation for resources on all of this

[Doug S]

Definitely a UPS on the i image here.  There has been once or twice that the light flickered while it was printing a screen but it kept on trucking instead of stopping in the middle.

[blue moon]

make sure you get something with the software that will shut down the computer if the power is out too long.

1500 will probably work, 2K would be better. 3K is definitely a safe bet, but those are EXPENSIVE!!!
APC is considered the go to manufacturer. Their "Smart" series the higher end version. "Back-UPS" is more consumer grade.
Something like this would be more then fine
APC 3000 Smart

for less money you could go with this one
APC 1500 Smart

pierre

[Alex M]

220v 7A is what the machines require for power... a 2K transformer will cover you.
Make sure you are buying one for 220!!! Many have made that sad mistake...


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[Ron Pierson]

Here is my recent experience (last month) ..........these machines have two ways for an electric attack. there is a Dell 110 PC that runs a 220 I-Image. you plug the Dell into a 110. you plug the I-Image into a 220. We have all dedicated circuits for everything, the space is brand new with all fresh wiring.

Here is what happened...... there was a loose wire in the 110 side - a neutral, we got a spike and it burnt the Dells into oblivion, the spike then ran up through the USB to the board that controls the I-Image, burning it out also. this spike burnt up two I-Images- made them paperweights for two days. Just the cost to parts repair and fly a tec was around 25K. please look over your critical equipment for these areas of weakness - we didn't. We lost the capacity to do our usual 600 screens a day - cost us a fortune in lost wages because of no screens.

Loose wire........there are so many cuss words I could use here - but I won't.

[blue moon]

Here is my recent experience (last month) ..........these machines have two ways for an electric attack. there is a Dell 110 PC that runs a 220 I-Image. you plug the Dell into a 110. you plug the I-Image into a 220. We have all dedicated circuits for everything, the space is brand new with all fresh wiring.

Here is what happened...... there was a loose wire in the 110 side - a neutral, we got a spike and it burnt the Dells into oblivion, the spike then ran up through the USB to the board that controls the I-Image, burning it out also. this spike burnt up two I-Images- made them paperweights for two days. Just the cost to parts repair and fly a tec was around 25K. please look over your critical equipment for these areas of weakness - we didn't. We lost the capacity to do our usual 600 screens a day - cost us a fortune in lost wages because of no screens.

Loose wire........there are so many cuss words I could use here - but I won't.

WOW! Sorry to hear that Ron.
Just out of curiosity, did you have the UPSs installed? 'not sure if they would help in this case. . .

pierre

[Ron Pierson]

Oh - -  - the end of the story is this.

We did a line leveling device at the 220 panel to level the power for the whole panel.
we, then, installed the best UPS battery systems we could buy for the 110 side of the issue - the Dell side.
I think we are safe.....

[T Shirt Farmer]

there was a loose wire in the 110 side - a neutral,

Loose wire........there are so many cuss words I could use here - but I won't.

Ron,
 
Man that's the worst was the lose wire on the distribution panel or inside the machine it's self ?

[Ron Pierson]

The loose wire was actually in the transformer where the 440 power was pulled from the ground into the 220 panel where the breakers are. we discovered it when we pulled off the protective cover and the loose wire was in the back of the transformer backing the wall.

[T Shirt Farmer]

The loose wire was actually in the transformer where the 440 power was pulled from the ground into the 220 panel where the breakers are. we discovered it when we pulled off the protective cover and the loose wire was in the back of the transformer backing the wall.

That's just crazy a heavy terminal not proper locked down.... really feel for you Ron trying to make a bullet proof system and still got stung.

[ZooCity]

Wow.  Ron, is your electrician involved with this discussion?

For 110, we ran a APC Back-UPS Pro 1500VA with our spyder when it was here.  I think in most cases the voltage conditioning alone is worth it.  Not super effective as an actual battery back up but necessary on the unit we had for other reasons.

[Ron Pierson]

Hey All

Yea - we called the electrician in that wired our new addition (15000 sq ft) and they found it. It was a big rewire when we acquired the building. We were up and running for a year or so when the wire came undone. We were all surprised. incidentally, we missed around 10000 screens for a day or two. the monetary loss of production was a big number. Luckily, this got repaired at the end of the week and we ran Saturday to catch up. Our customers understood and were patient - we have great ones!!

Interesting how we found it, we put up those battery backup and line conditioning units and they failed. This was a surprise. We finally did a voltage test and came to the conclusion that we had wild fluctuation in voltage at the plugs as things were coming on line and being turned off. The battery backups just quit trying.

Remember, all 4 way plugs and all outlets were a "home run" wiring scenario - 110's and 220's. Yea expensive but better isolated for blown breaker issues. Screen room guys are funny, you never know what they have plugged in in there.