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I understand that these thing are the crown jewels in a gaming rig, but what do we need?On a current i7 machine, with at least 12 G of memory, is the onboard Intel 620 with shared memory gonna hold back the graphic design we do?
adobe products have an option to use the GPU to speed up some 2D processing and filters. Overall, the additional features are nice for the power users heavily invested into the Adobe eco system.For the average user, the difference is not as big as some of the other things already mentioned (RAM, faster cores. . .).The thing is, aren't you a COREL user? So there might not even be a dedicated GPU part to in the software.In my experience, the laptops with the same specs are significantly slower than the desktop systems. 'not sure what causes that. So if you are after the bang for the buck, get a desktop with at least 16GB of RAM, an SSD drive and at least 3.0GHz core speed (4.0GHz would be better). Your built in card should be fine, but if you want to try, you can always add one later (unlike with the laptop).The CPU speed is tough. Almost all of the name brand laptops I see (in my sub $2k budget) are 1.8 Ghz 8th gen i7. Micro Express, the folks who built my desktop uses 2.2 Ghz processor. (and also strongly recommend getting the 2nd model up which has its own video card. I just always get the feeling that young techies are also gamers and lean in that direction.I sure am glad that I am in no real hurry for this, as it is seldom needed for real work duty.pierre
Simplest reasoning for a dedicated GPU:Your integrated GPU or 'on-board' on older machines will use your system ram and some resources to do it's thing,whereas a dedicated GPU has it's own ram ( faster ram as well ) and alot more muscle to do GPU related duties,freeing up the rest of your system from those tasks..02
Quote from: Chadwick on August 09, 2018, 03:22:03 PMSimplest reasoning for a dedicated GPU:Your integrated GPU or 'on-board' on older machines will use your system ram and some resources to do it's thing,whereas a dedicated GPU has it's own ram ( faster ram as well ) and alot more muscle to do GPU related duties,freeing up the rest of your system from those tasks..02I agree, which many over look.It's 2018, you shouldn't configure a machine without at least 32gb of ram or a dedicated GPU in my mind. But that's just me. Ram is not that much money so why not have plenty. I run 64gb in my machine.
Quote from: GraphicDisorder on August 09, 2018, 03:44:43 PMQuote from: Chadwick on August 09, 2018, 03:22:03 PMSimplest reasoning for a dedicated GPU:Your integrated GPU or 'on-board' on older machines will use your system ram and some resources to do it's thing,whereas a dedicated GPU has it's own ram ( faster ram as well ) and alot more muscle to do GPU related duties,freeing up the rest of your system from those tasks..02I agree, which many over look.It's 2018, you shouldn't configure a machine without at least 32gb of ram or a dedicated GPU in my mind. But that's just me. Ram is not that much money so why not have plenty. I run 64gb in my machine.That might make sense for you, but somebody only reading email and surfing certainly does not need all the bells and whistles in your computer. Frog prints an order or two per day and most of it is pretty simple stuff. He does not need the GPU unless he is running something else that is taxing the computer while working on the art. And for the record, memory prices have been going through the roof over the last couple of years. It is already over double what it used to cost Pierre
I think why you might be running into less performance on a similarly spec'ed laptop vs desktop, is the fact that they often have power management involved to be leaner on the battery. You may get slower clock speeds for example. Another issue is from thermal throttling. By nature, the laptops smaller build with tightly packed components is going to run much warmer than an efficient desktop case that is cooled properly. At a certain point the cpu may throttle its performance to bring down temperatures.I do believe that an integrated graphics of the i7 is more than adequate for working in Ps/Ai. Adobe is adding for functionality that uses the GPU, but its impact is minimal, when you compare the benefit gained from a stronger CPU, fewer faster cores for example, as opposed to multi-core with slower clocks. Hyper Threading would still have benefits over the non Hyper Threaded i5s, but are still very capable. Comparatively, if you are doing any video editing with Premier Pro or similar, a strong GPU is a must, in addition to lots of RAM and a good CPU.IMO, the performance per dollar could be better spent on higher end CPU, more RAM or multiple SSDS (one for the OS and another for dedicated scratch disk) A lot of time, unless you are doing a custom build, when you get to higher end rigs, you are going to have a dedicated GPU anyway, so you can't really go wrong. But if I had to chose where the money went first, I would prioritize CPU, RAM, and SSD over a GPU. But Adobe is offloading *some tasks to the GPU, but the functionality is limited. Where I would be more concerned with a dedicated GPU in Ps/Ai is if I were doing a multi monitor setup, where I was assigning separate ICC profiles to calibrated monitors. I don't believe this is possible with on board graphics.