Time to buy a new Dryer. Need advice.

[inkstain]

Hi guys,

It's time for our semi-small shop to buy a new dryer.  We are a two person shop.  We currently run an M&R Diamondback S 7/8 using an Anatol Solutions Dryer which we've had for a long time and it's been giving us headaches for a while now.  It has a 5ft chamber with 30" infeed/outfeed.
Looking at the M&R Fusion 36-6-3 or 36-6-4.  Anyone here have one of those?  We're figuring going for the 4 panel one.  Would love to get the Radicure but that's out of our budget.  Any advice, pros or cons would be helpful. 
Thanks so much!

[Colin]

Gas.

The savings in electric will typically pay for the dryer

Other than that, do you run any waterbase type inks?

[inkstain]

Gas.

The savings in electric will typically pay for the dryer

Other than that, do you run any waterbase type inks?

Ugh.  I can't gas at my location, wish I could.

[Rockers]

Gas.

The savings in electric will typically pay for the dryer

Other than that, do you run any waterbase type inks?

Ugh.  I can't gas at my location, wish I could.

There is no gas line or you are not allowed to use any gas at all in your location. If there is no gas line just get a dryer that can run on propane, unless it is a lot more expensive then natural gas.

[cbjamel]

60-80amps ouch. make sure you can do it. monthly and in panel wise. 100am service probably not best. high bill monthly. look at propane cost vs electric cost.
shane

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[inkstain]

Gas.

The savings in electric will typically pay for the dryer

Other than that, do you run any waterbase type inks?

Ugh.  I can't gas at my location, wish I could.

There is no gas line or you are not allowed to use any gas at all in your location. If there is no gas line just get a dryer that can run on propane, unless it is a lot more expensive then natural gas.

Now you got me thinking.  Do you run gas?  Aren't Gas dryers waaaay more expensive in initial cost?

[inkstain]

60-80amps ouch. make sure you can do it. monthly and in panel wise. 100am service probably not best. high bill monthly. look at propane cost vs electric cost.
shane

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I'm running about 51 amps for my dryer now.  If I go the 4 panel route it'll be about 76-83 amps.  Yeah, doesn't sound good but aren't gas dryers super expensive?
I live in Hawaii so I don't know about gas/propane pricing.  Need to look into it.  Do you run a gas dryer?  If so, what dryer?  Thanks

[Rockers]

Gas.

The savings in electric will typically pay for the dryer

Other than that, do you run any waterbase type inks?

Ugh.  I can't gas at my location, wish I could.

There is no gas line or you are not allowed to use any gas at all in your location. If there is no gas line just get a dryer that can run on propane, unless it is a lot more expensive then natural gas.

Now you got me thinking.  Do you run gas?  Aren't Gas dryers waaaay more expensive in initial cost?

The dryer wasn`t cheap but electricity is crazy expensive here.  Gas on the other hand is fairly cheap which made the decision even easier.

[mk162]

It was a few years back but our 48" Interchange with an extra infeed and outfeed was right around $20k.  I have performed one repair on it in 9 years and we do less than half the recommended maintenance.  I would buy another in a heartbeat.

I would personally talk to Winston before I jumped on any gas dryer.  He will give you the weak points of each brand/model.

I would do everything in my power to never own another electric dryer. Ours became nothing but problems at the end, and the few hundred dollars I save a month adds up fast.

[mimosatexas]

The interchange is 3 phase right? I did a bunch of this research last month and the mini sprint and heatwave seemed like the best options, especially since neither requires 3 phase and there are a bunch of them on the used market compared to other options. Pricing was around 10 to 15k used

[cbjamel]

I have mini sprint. there was some used ones in Cali for sale.

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[Stinkhorn Press]

It was a few years back but our 48" Interchange with an extra infeed and outfeed was right around $20k.  I have performed one repair on it in 9 years and we do less than half the recommended maintenance.  I would buy another in a heartbeat.

I would personally talk to Winston before I jumped on any gas dryer.  He will give you the weak points of each brand/model.

I would do everything in my power to never own another electric dryer. Ours became nothing but problems at the end, and the few hundred dollars I save a month adds up fast.

this.
never ever electric dryer. a bad inefficient problematic semi-solution that often struggles to get proper cure. ask me if i like electric dryers.
there are several decent gas dryer makers. i have an old precision vortex. took us a bit of hassle to figure out that some dumbass had installed the butterfly valve backwards, but after sorting that, it's been a dream. some months i pay more for my water cooler water supply than I do for the gas itself.
and winston. good guy. knows his stuff. has firm opinions on brands and makes/models, but has earned the right to those opinions.

[mk162]

The interchange is 3 phase right? I did a bunch of this research last month and the mini sprint and heatwave seemed like the best options, especially since neither requires 3 phase and there are a bunch of them on the used market compared to other options. Pricing was around 10 to 15k used

I am sure you can get it single phase, a phase converter would work as well.  It only draws 10A I think, so it's not a ton of lo

Why are there a bunch on the used market?  I always ask myself that with woodworking tools...

[whitewater]

We have a fusion... only reason we did not buy a gas dryer was because before we moved our last shop was way to small.

Prob in a year or 2 the savings in electricity would pay for it.

I would like to switch to gas now now..but the whole crating and selling the fusion is daunting..LOL

[Nation03]

Is it universal to all States that a gas dryer will 100% save you money? I know a comparable electric dryer in terms of dozen/hour would draw a lot of amps, but will I see much of a difference in my utlitiy costs if I went from a 28 amp electric dryer to, lets say, a used mini sprint or heatwave that pulls about 15 amps?