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Re: Penn State
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 08:31:44 AM »
I think he could have done more, he should have done more, but I don't know all the details to form much more of an opinion than that.  This Sandusky guy is scum, he did way more than we know about, I can promise you that.  I think a lot of people knew he was no good and they didn't do anything about it.  Going back to 1998 he was accused and ADMITTED to showering with an 11 year old boy and said he did inappropriate "hugging" and people knew about that and swept it under the rug.  The police were involved in that and it just fizzled out and went away.
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 08:37:23 AM »
Some are saying that Paterno had to be dealt with ASAP because there should be more details coming out pretty soon. I guess, the sh!t is yet to hit the fan.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 09:11:34 AM »
The really sad thing is things like this are swept under the rug to protect the image of the school. Yet when the cover up leaks it is much much more damaging and guess what crap like this always comes out. I just do not get it if the School just came out immediately and said they discovered so and so was piddling kids and we fired him there would be no damage to the schools reputation in fact the opposite they would gain respect for dealing with a situation correctly. WTF

If Paterno had one ounce of knowledge of what happened he is culpable as anyone else for not going to the police. The moment Paterno realized the scum was still around and not dealt with he should have did something. The freaking excuse of informing my superiors is a joke, his superiors are not the police this is child molestation not freaking pencil stealing.
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 09:36:53 AM »
My thought is that if someone tells you they saw something awful, and you follow up by telling the next person in line and nothing comes of it, you (anybody) have to pursue. If you don't this is what happens when it blows up. It saddens me that a man's lauded lifetime is now in the toilet, but he didn't do the right thing. I've seen it argued to the contrary, but I can't make that work in my head. Truly disgusting news...

Steve

True to an extent.  But consider this:  What if after he told his superiors, he asked about it later as was told it was taken care of?  Is he now supposed to be the lead investigator and find out exactly how it was taken care of and if things were handled properly?

I guess if he was a cafeteria worker at the school, but he's the head coach of the football team at a major college. This is not a one time scenario, it's been going on for a while. I can't believe he's that naive. I would think he would know it wasn't taken care of, because the offender remained there at the school, in his capacity. How could someone do that and still remain in the employ of the school? Also, this isn't about stealing vending machine money, it's about a violent attack of a large adult on a helpless child, in the shower on school property. It simply requires more follow through. Even saying he would retire at the end of the season proves he doesn't get it. What's the expression, "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." or something like that. Well, someone there gets it, because he's fired now.  And what's with the rioting? How brainless are these kids anyway? What an awful story.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2011, 09:38:42 AM »
It's always said that the "cover up" is worse than the crime, but not in this case.  Don't get me wrong, the cover up that the administrators at Penn State took part of was absolutely disgusting but every once in a while a crime can be so outrageously bad that the cover up pales in comparison.
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2011, 09:56:51 AM »
Looks like Tom Ridge (Director of Homeland Securtiy) will be the next PSU President.

and rumors are flying about Urban Meyer being the next coach. 
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2011, 10:17:33 AM »
Looks like Tom Ridge (Director of Homeland Securtiy) will be the next PSU President.

and rumors are flying about Urban Meyer being the next coach. 

Everybody it throwing out Urban Meyer's name. I guess he is the next Ohio State coach too :) Maybe, he will coach both of them.

If I was a coach, I would really think about taking over that program. Those stains would take time to disappear, and recruiting will be really tough for the next few (maybe 10-15) years.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 10:33:07 AM »
urban bought a house in boalsburg pa about a stone throw from state college.  his daughter a big volleyball star  penn state womens volleyball is the best just seems like its a perfect fit.
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 11:39:03 AM »
urban bought a house in boalsburg pa about a stone throw from state college.  his daughter a big volleyball star  penn state womens volleyball is the best just seems like its a perfect fit.
I also heard he bought a house near OSU too.  He is planning on coaching one of them, and PSU is now looking a lot less attractive.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 01:02:48 PM »
I much imagine Penn State is now gearing up for the lawsuits (fittingly so) from the injured parties for complacency by their appointed representatives.  And you can bet they will be forthcoming and large.
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Re: Penn State
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 01:44:02 PM »
I am sure there are so many layers to this, one can't even come close to comprehending.  In my opinion, the biggest issue is that the coverup put so many other children in harms way.  Nine years went by so who knows how many boys this man hurt because no one stepped up to the plate to report it to the police, all they did was take his keys away-now there is a punishment.  Good old boys club at it's peak. 

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2011, 01:45:23 PM »
drudge is reporting this case goes deeper...a lot deeper.  To truly sickening levels.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2011, 01:54:03 PM »
When we as people put sports ( and its coaches ) above what is right and moral things like this are being swept under the rug. In this case to protect Penn State's reputation. But did anyone hear what the first question was when it was announced that JP was fired? The very first question was " Who is going to coach Sat. game? ". Also ask yourself if it was your college that you loved and supported and it was your coach that had something like this happen would you get mad because of the firing or agree with it. What is your God?

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2011, 02:20:56 PM »
To be honest you have to look at how the hierarchy or chain of command is written for this situation.  Keep in mind it is an Educational institution and I  work part time as a teacher myself.  In our school if we suspect anything from sexual abuse to harassment we are required to inform our immediate supervisor then after that I am told that I am no long a party to that investigation.

This could be how Penn State has it written in their policy.  What we do not know is what the witness told Paterno.  Until that comes to light we need to reserve judgement on Paterno.

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Re: Penn State
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2011, 02:25:25 PM »
This is the reason I would never let my boys join the boy scouts...I,m not saying the scouts are bad I just didn't trust my kids being out of my site at such a young age.  When you can't even trust your pastors and such what in the world is going on with us in this world.  I tell you what if they (and I can't put a finger on who they are) keep taking GOD out of the mouths of people and schools and such we're going to have a hell of a mess one day.
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