printed discharge on gildan 5000's and American Apparel

[Shawn (EIP)]

Stunk up my shop to high heaven, people in my building are bitching but anyhow...

Here's a close up pic of the Gildan 5000


Full print pic


Wish I snapped off some shot of the AA before I mailed them out.

6 foot dryer , ran em through twice , 110 screen (all I had on hand) discharge from Excalubure 3 part system (wetting agent,clear base,activator) 15 x 21 print  size

The Gildan 5000's discharged much brighter then the American Apparel shirt's maybe because AA has a tighter weave?
 
The customer wanted zero feel to the print we opted out of the white discharge base and went with clear.

At any rate, how's it look?

[tpitman]

Pretty bright, considering only clear base. Good detail, too, for a 110.
Next time the other tenants bitch, tell 'em you're sorry but you had Mexican for dinner the night before.

[terryei]

looks good to me.

[Dottonedan]

Yes,  very nice. 1 color? can anyone say AWESOMENESS!

[sweetts]

great design

[Shawn (EIP)]

Yes,  very nice. 1 color? can anyone say AWESOMENESS!

Thanks! Yes, 1 color 1 hit of discharge (clear) and twice through the dryer.

The artwork is not my own but submitted (I wish I drew that!)

[screenxpress]

Awesome design.

Nice job.

Like Tom, I'm a little amazed that just clear produced such a white finished print.  Usually the oxidation of discharge leaves the raw cotton (tan) color.

[Shawn (EIP)]

Awesome design.

Nice job.

http://www.lancergroup.com/lancer/ink_catalog/water_based/catalog7_sm3.html

[screenxpress]

Ohhhhh, was that waterbase Shawn? 

I've never dabbled with waterbase.

Altho, having said that, the Union Plasticharge is a hybrid that after you add the activator, the cleanup is with water.   So maybe in a way, I have, lol.

[Shawn (EIP)]

Ohhhhh, was that waterbase Shawn? 

I've never dabbled with waterbase.

Yup according to my supplier waterbase works way better than the plasticharge stuff, I dont have the experience to back that up yet though but clean up was breeze. I was worried the ink would dry in my screen since I had to run around like a crazy person sending the shirts through twice after every 3 printed shirts but no issues at all. This stuff says low oder man I'd hate the smell the reg stuff. The wetting agent seems to make it alittle foamer like melted icecream.

[ZooCity]

Hey Shawn, nice prints, try a 150/48 "s" mesh next time, it's supposedly the jam for discharge with more open area and better ability to hold detail than a standard 110.  I bet double stroking the AA might've helped with the penetration.

A ?: where did the stankiness come from- the discharge ink on-press or from dryer emissions curing the shirts?

I ask because I've never handled discharge before (have done some wb) and hvac is one of the last things I need to complete in our new shop.  I'm going to vent our dryer, which has about 6' of forced, hot air, appropriately and also install fume catchers on both the intake and outtake. 

But, I'm contemplating having some make-up air and exhaust around the press.  This may dry the ink quicker but I plan on humidifying as needed as well.  But, what if we flash discharge (I'm going to make it my goal to never do this but sh!t happens as we all know) on-press?  Better have a vent hood over that flash and/or the cool-down I would imagine. 

I don't want our shop to reek and I'm not sure how the rest of you put up with it.  I feel like we're in an age where we don't have to inhale weird crap to be screen printers anymore.  What do some of you "larger than one man" shops do regarding this?

[Prosperi-Tees]

I just tried Ryonets white discharge 2 strokes on a 140 mesh on Gildan 5000s. I like it alot. I am going to try it with 1 stroke because it does leave a slight hand after washing but I was amazed that the odor was not strong at all. I have used Jantex discharge and that stinks to high heaven. Pics suck, I have a new cheap digital camera coming so that will help on that.

[mk162]

those prints rock guys, keep 'em coming.  Also, has anybody ever tried printing plastisol over a discharge base?  Just wondering if it's possible. 

[Fresh Baked Printing]

those prints rock guys, keep 'em coming.  Also, has anybody ever tried printing plastisol over a discharge base?  Just wondering if it's possible.

I've never tried it but I would think it work great. Anyone?

[Frog]

That was the first way that I ever saw it done. Almost 20 years ago, I was pulling on an auto,at a place then printing some jobs for Disney Epcot Center and don't remember if they flashed the base or not.

I remember that the smell was bad. It scared me away from discharge until the hybrids were introduced.
Interestingly, some here have said the that the plastisol hybrids  smell worse.