sabre or sportsman

[T Shirt Farmer]

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p.s. based on Tundra, I'd say get a TAS!

[blue moon]

having not owned either and almost purchased both, my suggestion would be to go see them on production floor somewhere.
Also, don't discount a press because of one thing you don't like about it. No press is perfect, they all have their quirks.If you can live with the thing you don't like keep it in the running.

pierre

[GraphicDisorder]

Sabre didn't exist when I got our Sportsman, so I can only say our Sportsman was great to us!

[DannyGruninger]

I would chose a sporty over the workhorse. Have you looked at any machines that offer heads dropping vs the pallets lifting? I find a huge advantage to presses with that configuration.

[jsheridan]

Gotcha,
Average job is maybe 3-4 colors and 75 piecess

With multiple setups per day, you'll want to evaluate the changeover time between job. With the M&R tri loc setup you're golden, what does the saber offer in terms of registration systems?

[kingscreen]

what does the saber offer in terms of registration systems?

Tri-Loc works on the Sabre.  We use it all day long on two Sabres.

[alan802]

I REALLY like the operating system that Workhorse has developed for the Sabre, it provides the user with so many cool features that even if you don't use many of them, they are there.  We just recently bought the Sporty's big brother, the Gauntlet III and I'm learning every day about how capable the G3 is.  If the sporty is even remotely close to the G3 in terms of the manufacturing quality and if it has half of the G3's feature set within the control panel then I'd say it's a smaller beast, but still a beast.  I've paid a lot of attention to the Sabre at the shows I've been to and I think it fits a great many shops, and Workhorse does a great job supporting their customers, and probably second in that department to only M&R.

I won't beat around the bush, and yeah, we own an M&R, but also an RPM, but if the prices are within the ballpark then if it were my money, I'd snag that Sportsman.  That Sabre is a fine machine though, I've not heard much negativity about it, especially after the initial kinks were ironed out that always exist on a new press model.  But I can guarantee there won't be any issues or problems with either machine that the manufacturer won't bend over backwards to make it right.  My vote:  Teenage Beast-Sporty

[GraphicDisorder]

I REALLY like the operating system that Workhorse has developed for the Sabre, it provides the user with so many cool features that even if you don't use many of them, they are there.  We just recently bought the Sporty's big brother, the Gauntlet III and I'm learning every day about how capable the G3 is.  If the sporty is even remotely close to the G3 in terms of the manufacturing quality and if it has half of the G3's feature set within the control panel then I'd say it's a smaller beast, but still a beast.  I've paid a lot of attention to the Sabre at the shows I've been to and I think it fits a great many shops, and Workhorse does a great job supporting their customers, and probably second in that department to only M&R.

I won't beat around the bush, and yeah, we own an M&R, but also an RPM, but if the prices are within the ballpark then if it were my money, I'd snag that Sportsman.  That Sabre is a fine machine though, I've not heard much negativity about it, especially after the initial kinks were ironed out that always exist on a new press model.  But I can guarantee there won't be any issues or problems with either machine that the manufacturer won't bend over backwards to make it right.  My vote:  Teenage Beast-Sporty

Alan, what size would you like your new Blue Baller Jacket to be? Ill get it sent over!

[im_mcguire]

what does the saber offer in terms of registration systems?

Tri-Loc works on the Sabre.  We use it all day long on two Sabres.

Also Workhorse has their own pre registration system too.

[alan802]

I REALLY like the operating system that Workhorse has developed for the Sabre, it provides the user with so many cool features that even if you don't use many of them, they are there.  We just recently bought the Sporty's big brother, the Gauntlet III and I'm learning every day about how capable the G3 is.  If the sporty is even remotely close to the G3 in terms of the manufacturing quality and if it has half of the G3's feature set within the control panel then I'd say it's a smaller beast, but still a beast.  I've paid a lot of attention to the Sabre at the shows I've been to and I think it fits a great many shops, and Workhorse does a great job supporting their customers, and probably second in that department to only M&R.

I won't beat around the bush, and yeah, we own an M&R, but also an RPM, but if the prices are within the ballpark then if it were my money, I'd snag that Sportsman.  That Sabre is a fine machine though, I've not heard much negativity about it, especially after the initial kinks were ironed out that always exist on a new press model.  But I can guarantee there won't be any issues or problems with either machine that the manufacturer won't bend over backwards to make it right.  My vote:  Teenage Beast-Sporty

Alan, what size would you like your new Blue Baller Jacket to be? Ill get it sent over!

I guess I'm an XL these days.  But I never got an RPM jacket so I'm not sure I feel comfortable being labeled as a Blue Baller .  Regardless of our likes and dislikes, our preferable brands and biases, I think the most important part is FULL DISCLOSURE.  I've been a big fan of RPM and Rick for all these years, but I've labeled opinions as opinions and facts are facts, and I would never publicly state something about a press or manufacturer that I knew to be false, or even innocently embellished because I was actually working for (making money from that company without disclosing it to you guys) said manufacturer.  I think a lot of people would at the very least be disappointed if they found out I was being compensated financially or otherwise from Rick all these years.  And I wouldn't hold it against someone if they called me every ugly name in the book if that in fact were true.  It matters, in my opinion.  Others can disagree or whatever, but I know what my conscience says to me and I would never waiver on this issue.

People can say whatever they want to about their preferred brand, even lying if they can live with themselves after doing it, but I think the proper information about "relationships" between parties should absolutely be publicly disclosed.  Some might say that it's none of our business, but I certainly disagree and I'll always error on the side of giving you guys too much information rather than not enough.  Transparency is very important when it comes to a lot of what people on this forum say about their equipment.  There are people that visit this forum that make some VERY BIG decisions based a lot off of what the more respected/trusted forum members here say, and those guys should take that seriously and think about what they are saying/typing with that in mind.