One Stroke Inks new ink

[3Deep]

Any one using One Strokes new water color plastisol inks Pros/Cons this what they say

Replace water-based inks with a plastisol inks and get your freedom back.  No longer do you need a special emulsion.  Ink will not dry in your screen.  You won't need excessive cure times to evaporate the water in the ink.  Watercolor solves so many problems.

[farmboygraphics]

Waiting for my sample kit.

[Sbrem]

looks interesting...

Steve

[Admiral]

Link would be helpful, is this it? http://www.onestrokeinks.com/assets/war_paint.pdf

This is not plastisol though.  I thought the whole 'replace water based inks and it's easier than ever' and you mentioning it's plastisol was all a joke...

Sounds like the Excalibur Evolution series 2 ink to me? PVC free  -  Hopefully less expensive though.

[Frog]

Here's a link to the tech sheet. http://www.onestrokeinks.com/assets/tds_watercolor.pdf
To me, though, it seems to match a description of based-down plastisol.

[Admiral]

Here's a link to the tech sheet. http://www.onestrokeinks.com/assets/tds_watercolor.pdf
To me, though, it seems to match a description of based-down plastisol.

Yea I wonder how easy it would be to replicate with soft hand base / curable reducer mix. 

Currently we just use QCM Softee base and higher mesh counts when going for soft hand feel.

[kingscreen]

We like Rutland's Chino base, and WM Plastics Just So Soft base/additive for this.
I feel like it's a stretch claiming it's a replacement for Waterbased ink.

[ZooCity]

All of the plastisols that try to emulate wb have fibrillation issues imo. 

[3Deep]

Don't water base have the same characteristics  (fibrillation)?  when I first started screen printing all I knew about was water base inks, but I did a lot of white and very light color shirts back then too, so that might not have been a problem or I didn't have sense enough to know.  If DC inks was not a difficult beast and worked on any garment color I'd go DC, but I'm interested in this ink from One Stroke, but I know it will come with a nice price tag if it's what they say it is.

[mimosatexas]

All of the plastisols that try to emulate wb have fibrillation issues imo.

yep.  I havent tested this one, but of all the weird bases and inks I've tried, none of them act like actual waterbased inks, especially once the garment has been washed.  Black waterbased inks (good ones at least) stay super black for dozens of washes with no hand or weird lightening due to fibration because the fibers are actually dyed black from the ink.  Black plastisols, stock or pigmented bases of all kinds, tend to lighten up due to the fibration and tend to still have a hand, even if it is "soft" compared to standard plastisol prints.

[Orion]

Another approach to taming errant fibers is to do so with water-based ink. This can work well with white shirts, the ones that show fibrillation the most. Water-based ink can penetrate and color the fibers of the shirt so that, even if they do pop up, they’re mostly the proper color. ~ Rick Roth

[ZooCity]

Don't water base have the same characteristics  (fibrillation)?  when I first started screen printing all I knew about was water base inks, but I did a lot of white and very light color shirts back then too, so that might not have been a problem or I didn't have sense enough to know.  If DC inks was not a difficult beast and worked on any garment color I'd go DC, but I'm interested in this ink from One Stroke, but I know it will come with a nice price tag if it's what they say it is.

Not if done right.   The pigment wicks into the fibers themselves so nothing can fuzz out after wearing/washing due to the fibers breaking loose of the ink film.  Think dyeing v. coating here.

[3Deep]

Bringing this back up again because I got a call from One stroke this morning, trying to get me to buy a sample, I don't buy sample's not at there price.  I told them I ask about this ink here and didn't get much of a response which I found odd because you guys are pretty much up on the new inks hitting the market, so I ask again has anyone tried there new water color inks which is from what they say a plastisol water base ink without the drying properties of true water base ink.  Oh and one stroke is some very pricey azz inks

[Colin]

Here, if a job calls for waterbase like softness....... we just print waterbase.....

With that said:  We use Rutlands Ultra Soft Primer Clear.  It has better long term matte abilities than Chino, Fashion soft etc.... BUT, it will build up if you print it wet on wet.  We usually use it for one color stuff that needs to be really soft and tonal on colored garments.  Typically blends.

[Underbase37]

I haven't used it, but after talking to our rep a few time about it...It sounds like a good idea in theory and I'm sure it's got a market out there...But here if we need an ink of that sort we mix it in house.

Murphy