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Offline Dottonedan

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Location of the off contact adjusment
« on: November 22, 2016, 09:27:55 AM »
Out of curiosity, where is the off contact adjustment on your press? It is a lever arm, or button feature?
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 09:36:23 AM »
M&R: Lever under the carousel.
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 09:43:58 AM »
Yes, I should have clarified, other than M&R presses.  Lol.
Thanks for the reminder.
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 09:58:28 AM »
Workhorse Sabre has them under the carousel at the center shaft. 
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 10:14:00 AM »
are you talking about where you adjust it?

On the RPM it can be done from any head in by pressing a few buttons.

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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 12:03:33 PM »
On my Anatol I have a central off contact knob under the table, here is another question while we are on this subject what's better central off contact adjustment or independant head adjustment off contact?
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 01:53:44 PM »
individual adjustments on the front and back of the screen holders. . .

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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 01:59:01 PM »
Interesting. We see that this can be pretty different on each.

How often are you all making adjustments?   So far, this shop does not touch off contact but they jump around from really thick sweats to thin fitness wear.
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 02:02:55 PM »
I like the idea of central off contact to adjust for garment issues and shims to adjust an individual print head OC and peel for special effect ink.

By combining shims of varying thickness you have almost infinite OC control.  A trip to the hardware store to get 1 inch aluminum blanks in 1/64, 1/32, 1/16 & 1/8th thickness.  Cut to length of your screen holders and if you want to get fancy spray paint to color code for thickness. 
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2016, 02:22:01 PM »
I like the idea of central off contact to adjust for garment issues and shims to adjust an individual print head OC and peel for special effect ink.

By combining shims of varying thickness you have almost infinite OC control.  A trip to the hardware store to get 1 inch aluminum blanks in 1/64, 1/32, 1/16 & 1/8th thickness.  Cut to length of your screen holders and if you want to get fancy spray paint to color code for thickness.

I agree 100%...

I can't see any good reason to adjust off contact independently front to back or left to right on a head in a production environment....

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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2016, 02:23:01 PM »
Remember that you will also need to adjust flood and squeegee pressures if you shim
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2016, 02:30:04 PM »
Shimming means re-setting screens correct? As in switching from tees to fleece you unlock head insert
shim and re-set?

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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2016, 02:59:13 PM »
On my press I set the central off contact and I'm good to go for sweats, hoodies, tee's etc...don't ever remember shimming an individual screen for any reason, maybe setting the squeegee pressure different.  @ Dan they must not have run into some thick sweats or hoodies yet, I can see registration problems using the same OC setting for T's and thick sweats, at least I know it has for me.
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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2016, 03:35:49 PM »
Optimal o.c. adjustment would be central + individual at heads but only in plane, i.e. no option to make left higher than right or front higher than back.   

I like central for quick T to fleece adjustment. 

I like individual for jobs with DC UB, etc. that can benefit from dialing in o.c.  It'd be nice to have the hilite colors after a heavy ub up a little further, etc.

We use shims on our old gauntlet. 

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Re: Location of the off contact adjusment
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016, 05:59:40 PM »
Roq You

Individual adjustments on the front and back of the screen holders.

They are manual adjust. I would prefer a digital adjust. And we do adjust flood and squeegee height depending on the change. In a perfect world we would also have central off contact as well. Switching from tees to hoodies would be great if we could just make one adjustment and not have to worry about anything else. But having to choose between one or the other, I will take independent head OC over central any day.

We use different OC on hoodies than we do tees. And as we've been testing different white inks we have done some a little higher than top colors. I suppose if we had a screen where the tension got a little loose we would raise the OC a little higher on that screen as well.