"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
And when they repeal Obamacare that plan will cost just as much and be just as shitty. But of course you will have the freedom to be uninsured at that point, so if you get sick or have an accident you can have the "freedom" of crushing medical debts and losing things you've worked hard for just so you don't die. You will also have the freedom of your taxes going to pay for all those uninsured folks anyway, but having it cost everyone more in the end.YOU are not the point though. 10's of millions of people who need that care are the point, and just because your selfishness blinds you to the perils of privatized profit motivated healthcare doesn't change the issues with it.
I can't remember anytime in my life where I could have bought decent insurance for a mere $50 a month. I have had company supplied insurance where my cost was about twice that but ofcourse the company had to pay their share. Funny thing is I pay about $100 now self bought and ok coverage. The only thing that really sucks about it is prescription cost.
There has to be a better way on health care... that's the real point. Obama Care was suppose to reduced costs... its drastically raised them. Mine has almost quadrupled.
Why is it doom and gloom to point out how policy changes are objectively going to effect a huge portion of the population negatively? That's called reality :shrug:bulldog: you do realize Obamacare was supposed to be exactly what you described, right? It is what it is because Republicans fought tooth and nail to make it as shitty as possible, to protect corporate profits instead of public interests. If we had a public option like Obama (and Clinton and Bernie and liberals in general) wanted we would collectively have a cheap and quality option available for everyone, and if you felt like paying more for some kind of premium plan on the private market you would still have been able to, like in every other country with socialized medicine. More importantly, that public option would have massive advantages when negotiating and regulating the cost of care, which would drive down those private free market options as well.Trump and this Republican congress want to repeal the ACA, but do you actually think they would replace it with something that drove down costs for individuals at the expense of corporate profits when that has been exactly what they have been fighting against since Bill Clinton was president?
My plan is also a BCBS not a great plan nor the worse, costs me exactly $128 a month. I do not know if it is a group discount or not since all of us here purchased from the same broker.
Quote from: mimosatexas on November 11, 2016, 12:27:10 PMWhy is it doom and gloom to point out how policy changes are objectively going to effect a huge portion of the population negatively? That's called reality :shrug:bulldog: you do realize Obamacare was supposed to be exactly what you described, right? It is what it is because Republicans fought tooth and nail to make it as shitty as possible, to protect corporate profits instead of public interests. If we had a public option like Obama (and Clinton and Bernie and liberals in general) wanted we would collectively have a cheap and quality option available for everyone, and if you felt like paying more for some kind of premium plan on the private market you would still have been able to, like in every other country with socialized medicine. More importantly, that public option would have massive advantages when negotiating and regulating the cost of care, which would drive down those private free market options as well.Trump and this Republican congress want to repeal the ACA, but do you actually think they would replace it with something that drove down costs for individuals at the expense of corporate profits when that has been exactly what they have been fighting against since Bill Clinton was president?Where to start...Republicans had zero input into the ACA, they were not allowed to be heard, any idea they had wasn't even allowed to be brought to the floor for a vote. That pissed a lot of people off and was the reason MA elected Scott Brown.Our plan for our family is $1350 per month with a $6500 per person, max of $19500 out of pocket. We can't afford that, which is fine, because the plan is being cancelled, for the 3rd time. Our last hospital bill for our son was $7600. Explain to me why the ACA was a good thing? before that our family was right around $400 a month and our daughter's hospital bill for birth was $1500.
"Trump and this Republican congress want to repeal the ACA" yes this is true BUT BUT BUT..........I will say it again. the ONLY way to repeal ACA is through congress (house and senate). the senate has enough democrats to filibuster, so if ACA is repealed that means some democrats voted to repeal. But as you have said ONLY TRUMP and REPUBLICANS want to repeal so with the filibuster the senate has a REPEAL will not happen.oh and this is a FACT not imaginedBCBS of Florida non ACA plan and I pay $500 month has gone up $100 for the last 2 years.
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