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Offline Doug S

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Can this be embroidered
« on: October 17, 2017, 12:55:57 PM »
First off, I know nothing about embroidery and I don't think I've ever see a garment with gradients embroidered.  The image I've attached is supposed to be on a left crest of polos and 100% polyester oxford garments.  Should I tell him this will have to be solid colors and maybe simplify it  so that it can be done?  If it can be done, would anyone be interested?   It should be a couple of hundred or more.  I haven't got the full details yet.
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2017, 01:23:07 PM »
short answer...no.

Long answer...take out the majority of the detail, any small text, I would even drop the gradients.  Take that logo and seriously dumb it down.  The smallest text you want to sew is about .15" high at the smallest, and it's hard to read at that size and there is a lot of room for error.  we try and stay above .2" high.

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2017, 01:26:20 PM »
all the inlines and outlines will add a huge volume of stitch count, small serif fonts are not your friend with embroidery
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2017, 01:30:10 PM »
No way too much detail and clutter for embroidery...you will hate yourself and your customer will not like you much either.
You might try a couple of products from Stahls, Perma Twill or texture twill here is a link
https://www.stahls.com/full-color-digital-transfer
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2017, 02:02:05 PM »
Thanks for the answers.  That's what I needed to know so I can inform the customer.  It's bad enough that I have to screen print that same logo inside of the letter O in Love Christ.  So it won't be any larger than 2.75 inches.
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2017, 02:30:09 PM »
You might try a printed vinyl.  It would do a nice job.

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 02:55:27 PM »
I agree.  I have combined (plastisol) and Vinyl (heat) Transfers on a couple of jobs and it worked out very satisfactory for the customers.
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2017, 07:26:51 PM »
Yeah, this has digital transfer written all over it.


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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2017, 05:58:39 AM »
I agree.  I have combined (plastisol) and Vinyl (heat) Transfers on a couple of jobs and it worked out very satisfactory for the customers.
Yeah, this has digital transfer written all over it.


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I've never used digital transfers, does it have that glossy look & plastic feel to it or can the untrained eye tell the difference that and screen printed? 
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 08:59:56 AM »
a lot of them can look glossy but I think there are some matte options from stahls depending on the material you are pressing.

If a customer really wants something like this embroidered I will usually send it off to have it digitized and then show them the sew sample(billing them of course).  Their expectations are usually met with a huge dose of reality. 

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 09:47:40 AM »
yes!
Clear poly thread and then sublimate on top. there were few examples at the SGIA, the stuff looked great!

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 09:57:42 AM »
yes!
Clear poly thread and then sublimate on top. there were few examples at the SGIA, the stuff looked great!

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How do they line it up? Just build in a fat forgiving border?
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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 10:19:38 AM »
yes!
Clear poly thread and then sublimate on top. there were few examples at the SGIA, the stuff looked great!

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How do they line it up? Just build in a fat forgiving border?


don't remember, but it was lined up nicely. These were patches so less chances of ruining the garment, but it should not be that hard. . .

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 11:08:40 AM »
  I have trieed this in the past and the only problem is that the heat and pressure
of application will really flatten out the thread.

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Re: Can this be embroidered
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 08:57:46 PM »
I appreciate the replies.  Sorry I haven't had time until now to check it.  They ended up deciding to scratch the idea of the embroidery for the time being.  I'll still have to print that same logo less then 3" tall.  Should be interesting.  I'm going to try 65 or 75 lpi.
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