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Offline ericheartsu

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Blackline filtration system
« on: June 07, 2016, 06:15:58 PM »
Does anyone use the blackline filtration systems?
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2016, 07:55:37 PM »
Haven't used the Blackline but I tried to save money by purchasing an off brand (which attempted to copy the Blackline) and it is a total piece of shiz.  So I'd highly recommend not doing what I did.  :D
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 02:18:24 AM »
I'm looking at the cci roll to roll unit.  Hydrokleen makes a super deluxe auto version but it's pricy.

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 09:03:07 AM »
We have it, about 2 years now, like it a lot. You must keep up with it on maintenance. Our state and town authorities are also very pleased with it...

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2016, 10:05:47 AM »
We've had the older, white unit for a few years and really like it.  Haven't had any problems.
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2016, 12:10:40 PM »
i want to clean up our ink cleaning station, and our emulsion cleaning station, and these look the most practical/easy to use.
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2016, 01:49:42 PM »
I've tried these type things before, first with a home built, then with an official. they don't handle the heavy work flow. Now we use CCI Clearwater system. The bentonite clay that you put in the system creates actually crystal clear water, all contaminants in the dirty water from color to chems, emulsion, everything become encapsulated in the clay. You scoop/filter the clay out, let it dry into rocks and toss it in the dumpster. It's a pretty amazing thing to watch after a batch of dirty water is whipped up, the encapsulated clay floats to the top like oatmeal. To save on bag filters we use a big chef's mesh strainer to scoop out the bulk, then hit the valve and the rest goes through the 1 micron bag filters and boom, water that is probably 1 to 2 steps away from being drinking water, it's that clear.
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2016, 02:03:45 PM »
For us, it's critical that the filtration system not need a lot of user maintenance.  Let your crew do their thing and not worry about effluent and changing bags, etc.and besides, if you have our crew they won't change it and you'll have sludgy water all over the place....  That's why I like the roll to roll idea.  The hydrokleen one automaticaly advances the roll media which is super smart.

Screenprint guy, did you try the roll to roll CCI one before moving to the Clearwater?  The Clearwater sounds dope but is overkill for us I believe, I thought it was designed for CA compliance?

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2016, 03:10:19 PM »
Well, filtration systems by nature need a little attention, or they stop filtering, which is what I meant. It gets changed over maybe once a month when busy (250 screens a week) and takes maybe a half hour tops....

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2016, 03:18:43 PM »
Well, filtration systems by nature need a little attention, or they stop filtering, which is what I meant. It gets changed over maybe once a month when busy (250 screens a week) and takes maybe a half hour tops....

Steve

That actually sounds great.

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2016, 03:40:28 PM »
For us, it's critical that the filtration system not need a lot of user maintenance.  Let your crew do their thing and not worry about effluent and changing bags, etc.and besides, if you have our crew they won't change it and you'll have sludgy water all over the place....  That's why I like the roll to roll idea.  The hydrokleen one automaticaly advances the roll media which is super smart.

Screenprint guy, did you try the roll to roll CCI one before moving to the Clearwater?  The Clearwater sounds dope but is overkill for us I believe, I thought it was designed for CA compliance?

Our drawback is that our water has to go outside. Our crappers and sinks are on a septic tank and it's an epa violation to drain any of what we all have coming from reclaiming into a septic tank, not to mention over time the emulsion and ink will eventually cause issues in the drain field, so with that, we have to drain outside like you would your a/c unit, or some folks do with their washer machines at homes on septic tanks. We always drained into the sand, and then if a skin residue started to appear on top, roll it up and toss it out, but the land owner complained and made it mandatory that we only drain clear water so this system was perfect. I did try the roll media, it did pretty much the same thing as our home made set up that actually worked the best until we started using the clearwater set up. I had a catch basin that the bulk water collected in after going through a zurn catch, draining through 230 mesh, then pumped through a 50 micron and then a 5 micron filter. There was still color though and so we just had to nip it in the bud and shut the guy up by going the full route. I think our filter set up we made would have past any testing since there was literally no particulate, but the dude got so picky and whiney that I didn't want to hear it anymore. Now zero anything goes out besides clear water. Now that we've had it since Christmas, I would recommend it even though it's pricey. From what I was told by an area epa agent is that any business that exhausts anything through water whether sewer or direct outdoor drain will be held to higher standards and he also said, and this will be federal, that depending on how things have been done, companies can be held to past exhausting/draining, so I'd rather play it safe.  :D
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2016, 09:33:29 PM »
I'm looking at the cci roll to roll unit.

Stop looking. It sucks eggs.
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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2016, 10:18:53 PM »
I'm looking at the cci roll to roll unit.

Stop looking. It sucks eggs.

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 04:09:57 AM »
we have a settling tank system that works quite well but you may want to look at something like this depending on what you are trying to accomplish...just a thought...and I like creating workaround stuff and "moosegoldburg" ways of making something simple difficult.

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Re: Blackline filtration system
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2016, 09:55:44 AM »
I have an update after checking with the screen guy, make that more like every 3 weeks, and depending on use, completely empty it and clean any sludge that found it's way to the bottom, maybe every 3 months for that. Also, there is a small filter that is cleaned every week, very easy to do...

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