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Quote from: blue moon on May 09, 2017, 12:00:48 PMQuote from: Prōdigium on May 07, 2017, 01:24:07 AMQuote from: dirkdiggler on May 03, 2017, 02:32:18 PMBro...get some Easiway 701 and use it as dehazer and degreaser when you clean and BOOM!!!!!! Never worry about haze again! And it wont hurt you. Trust me!!!!!I would take serious exception to that claim, which is patently false. Easiway 701 is darn near 15% JP Jet Fuel, a type of kerosene SDS Sheet . It will also explain in the SDS sheet why your bottles keep melting.A very strong petroleum distillate that is most certainly not healthy for you or the environment. Read your product SDS sheets in your shops, look up the CAS numbers online...you might be VERY shocked at the stuff your told is safe in this industry or that your using in your own shop. I have even found press washes that are 40% naptha!! and still claim to be environmentally healthy. Its astonishing the range of product that make claims of safe or green just because they are 1% under the legal limits of what would otherwise be called hazardous. From time to time everyone requires an effective product that will have strong ingredients, but educate yourself please a "green" label does not make it safe, or environmentally responsible.very interesting read. The EW701 is one of the best screen cleaning compounds I've ever seen but reading the SDS makes me pause. While it is used in small quantities (7-13%) and it is combined with other ingredients which can impact the impact it has, there is plenty in the description that would make me stop using it. The part that really gets me thinking is the description where it states "This product is not to be used as a solvent or cleaning agent"pierreSidenote..... I've been noticing that my s-mesh screens don't often show signs of hazing. It could be due some other process change I made... not sure.I've used 701 quite a bit in the past.... not sure if I need it now ??
Quote from: Prōdigium on May 07, 2017, 01:24:07 AMQuote from: dirkdiggler on May 03, 2017, 02:32:18 PMBro...get some Easiway 701 and use it as dehazer and degreaser when you clean and BOOM!!!!!! Never worry about haze again! And it wont hurt you. Trust me!!!!!I would take serious exception to that claim, which is patently false. Easiway 701 is darn near 15% JP Jet Fuel, a type of kerosene SDS Sheet . It will also explain in the SDS sheet why your bottles keep melting.A very strong petroleum distillate that is most certainly not healthy for you or the environment. Read your product SDS sheets in your shops, look up the CAS numbers online...you might be VERY shocked at the stuff your told is safe in this industry or that your using in your own shop. I have even found press washes that are 40% naptha!! and still claim to be environmentally healthy. Its astonishing the range of product that make claims of safe or green just because they are 1% under the legal limits of what would otherwise be called hazardous. From time to time everyone requires an effective product that will have strong ingredients, but educate yourself please a "green" label does not make it safe, or environmentally responsible.very interesting read. The EW701 is one of the best screen cleaning compounds I've ever seen but reading the SDS makes me pause. While it is used in small quantities (7-13%) and it is combined with other ingredients which can impact the impact it has, there is plenty in the description that would make me stop using it. The part that really gets me thinking is the description where it states "This product is not to be used as a solvent or cleaning agent"pierre
Quote from: dirkdiggler on May 03, 2017, 02:32:18 PMBro...get some Easiway 701 and use it as dehazer and degreaser when you clean and BOOM!!!!!! Never worry about haze again! And it wont hurt you. Trust me!!!!!I would take serious exception to that claim, which is patently false. Easiway 701 is darn near 15% JP Jet Fuel, a type of kerosene SDS Sheet . It will also explain in the SDS sheet why your bottles keep melting.A very strong petroleum distillate that is most certainly not healthy for you or the environment. Read your product SDS sheets in your shops, look up the CAS numbers online...you might be VERY shocked at the stuff your told is safe in this industry or that your using in your own shop. I have even found press washes that are 40% naptha!! and still claim to be environmentally healthy. Its astonishing the range of product that make claims of safe or green just because they are 1% under the legal limits of what would otherwise be called hazardous. From time to time everyone requires an effective product that will have strong ingredients, but educate yourself please a "green" label does not make it safe, or environmentally responsible.
Bro...get some Easiway 701 and use it as dehazer and degreaser when you clean and BOOM!!!!!! Never worry about haze again! And it wont hurt you. Trust me!!!!!
I agree, that last line is troubling. I think this kind of thing gets overlooked far too often. I suspect that too many of us have a foolhardy "man up" mentality where we do what it takes to get the job done today, disregarding what it may cost us physically in the long run. Or worse, & call me cynical, but when it's some minimum wage kid breathing the fumes, his/her long-term health isn't always a priority as long as money is being made.I recall discussing "safe" chemicals with a rep some time ago. She stepped carefully as she spoke, but as much as said that many of the "safe" and "green" options are not all nearly as safe nor as green as the marketing says. (And yes, that included some products from FranMar, for those who wonder.) She still implied that some chemical options were better than others, but by degrees - there's no clear line dividing "safe" from "dangerous."But what are we to do? There are so many chems out there, scattered among a lot of different suppliers. It ain't easy to discover which chemicals really do the job and aren't going to do you (or the environment, aquifer, etc.) permanent harm! I have yet to zero in on the best choices. Yes, we can & should read the SDS'. But we rely on suppliers & manufacturers being relatively truthful. At the very least, make proper handling instructions out front, rather than buried down deep in the "we know you aren't going to do this, but legally we're covered now" verbiage. Wish this part of running the shop wasn't so murky!