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Offline Shawn (EIP)

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progress on my Workhorse refurb
« on: October 17, 2011, 01:43:42 PM »
Cleaning the heads next. This press looked like a wookie with chipped up paint when I bought it four or five days ago.



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Offline mk162

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 03:38:30 PM »
I have a question....will this press bring in more business?  Is it better than the R Jennings?  I am not trying to sound rude, but aren't there better things to focus on than fixing up an old press?

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 03:45:25 PM »
I have a question....will this press bring in more business?  Is it better than the R Jennings?  I am not trying to sound rude, but aren't there better things to focus on than fixing up an old press?

Biz is slow I have 1 or 2 jobs to print a day but when I get too busy I'll have a second press to set up jobs on for the next day waiting for me, hire help when I need it  and so on... Everything I fixed so far I came in over the weekend for, the print heads will take a few weeks maybe scrub em for an hour a day. It's all good. ;)

I'm gonna try to print the next 1000+ order myself with help rather than outsourcing like I've been doing.

+ It's kinda fun fixing things up  :P   Makes my shop look more professional than just the 1 manual.

Maybe later down the road sell it and put the money towards an auto.
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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »
Yeah, but would this time have been better served by selling more jobs?  All I know is when I am only turning out a job or 2 per day, I hold on to what I can.  You're a 1 man show, you don't need 2 presses.  Even if you hire another employee, 1 person can prep jobs and screens while the other prints, or better yet, you sit your butt in a comfy chair while other people do your work.

You need a plan, rather than just add equipment in case you hire or so that your shop "looks" better.

GO TALK TO SAM.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 04:11:35 PM »

You need a plan, rather than just add equipment in case you hire or so that your shop "looks" better.

GO TALK TO SAM.

I knew you was going to hang on to that line lol... it was sarcasm. Do we gotta disagree on everything?  ;D

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 04:22:54 PM »
You want a 2nd manual press and hired help to turn out more work you can not make enough money on?......Using hired help on a manual press is just "pissing" profit away.....If you have enough work for hired help, get an auto press or 10 or 15 years from now you will see you spent 100s of thousands of dollars on wages that you would have saved had you bought an auto press early on....You are taking food out of your family's mouth....

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2011, 04:30:44 PM »
Actually, I am making my shop look cooler right now as well.  It's been put on hold since I can't get enough time to do it.

I agree with royster on the auto.  You can find a good auto for around $8,000 for a 6 color.  You will have more energy and more output with an auto.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 04:31:48 PM »
You want a 2nd manual press and hired help to turn out more work you can not make enough money on?......Using hired help on a manual press is just "pissing" profit away.....If you have enough work for hired help, get an auto press or 10 or 15 years from now you will see you spent 100s of thousands of dollars on wages that you would have saved had you bought an auto press early on....You are taking food out of your family's mouth....

There's 1/2 a dozen print shops here with multiple manuals with employees, can't be too bad of an idea. Beisdes being on the 3rd floor with no freight elevator there's no way an auto is getting up here. I'm not talking about hiring someone as an employee but rather pay help when I need it.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 04:35:35 PM »
Actually, I am making my shop look cooler right now as well.  It's been put on hold since I can't get enough time to do it.

I agree with royster on the auto.  You can find a good auto for around $8,000 for a 6 color.  You will have more energy and more output with an auto.

Trust me it's in the think tank... I'm always keeping an eye out locally for a good deal. When it's right I'll happen.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 04:38:20 PM »
You should refurb that press and sell it.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 04:44:42 PM »
Multiple manual presses???? Just because someone else does it, does not make it a good idea...

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 04:46:36 PM »
cough. . I have the auto you need. . cough. . .I'll even work out a payment plan. .
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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »
There you go.  A payment plan from Homer.  Trust me dude, an auto/manual combo is much smarter than a manual/manual combo.

Shawn, you should just stop asking questions altogether since you know everything.  Your work in awesome, you need to be focused on selling that, not filling your shop with equipment that you might use if you hire an employee.

We are just trying to give you advice, and with everything you act like you know it all.  I am not saying this to be a dick, but if you fail at shirt printing this time, maybe you will listen to somebody when they try and use their knowledge and experience to better your situation.

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2011, 06:00:13 PM »
cough. . I have the auto you need. . cough. . .I'll even work out a payment plan. .

Thought you was holding on to that?

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Re: progress on my Workhorse refurb
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 06:01:38 PM »
Same as Homer's offer here. If you'd rather drive to Cleveland, you are more than welcome here and I will NOT kick you in the NUTS!!!

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