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Roq has a function in their presses where you can program the press to print either odd or even pallets..... So you can setup job a on the even pallets, and setup job b on the odd pallets and run two jobs at the same time.
Quote from: DannyGruninger on January 20, 2016, 01:20:45 PMRoq has a function in their presses where you can program the press to print either odd or even pallets..... So you can setup job a on the even pallets, and setup job b on the odd pallets and run two jobs at the same time.Our ECO 16/12 is set up exactly like this. We have no screen head at station 9 (and also none at 3, but that's open for a flash) and got ROQ to add a cut down control panel at the second load station so that we can run the press with 2 loaders and 1 unloader. We also have positioning lasers, skip shirt buttons and foot pedal control at both loading stations. ROQ customised the machine to our exact requirements, and even wrote a special program for the control computer.For us it's about short runs, we can print a long run (which for us is anything more than about 200 shirts!) and several smaller runs at the same time - In a market where run lengths are dropping like a stone a single press doing multiple jobs is much more efficient than the alternative of running jobs one after the other (small job customer has to wait for longer runs to finish) or having all the costs of a second machine which may or may not be fully utilised.A big multi colour press spinning for hours on a 1 or 2 colour job with most of the heads being unused while several small run 1 or 2 colour jobs wait their turn does not make sense to me.
Quote from: blue moon on January 20, 2016, 12:55:04 PMQuote from: LuckyFlyinROUSH on January 20, 2016, 12:36:08 PMMaybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.I think M&R holds the patent on the shirt sensor and I am not aware of anybody else offering them . . .pierrei know if a couple other presses that have them --they maybe just under the lawyer radar. its amazing that a simple proximity switch can be patented, for application alone .
Quote from: LuckyFlyinROUSH on January 20, 2016, 12:36:08 PMMaybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.I think M&R holds the patent on the shirt sensor and I am not aware of anybody else offering them . . .pierre
Maybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.
Quote from: ol man on January 20, 2016, 02:19:58 PMQuote from: blue moon on January 20, 2016, 12:55:04 PMQuote from: LuckyFlyinROUSH on January 20, 2016, 12:36:08 PMMaybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.Yes we can do multiple short sensors on the same press. I think M&R holds the patent on the shirt sensor and I am not aware of anybody else offering them . . .pierrei know if a couple other presses that have them --they maybe just under the lawyer radar. its amazing that a simple proximity switch can be patented, for application alone .this was what I remembered and it could be completely wrong! I was hoping somebody else would know more.pierre
Quote from: blue moon on January 20, 2016, 12:55:04 PMQuote from: LuckyFlyinROUSH on January 20, 2016, 12:36:08 PMMaybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.Yes we can do multiple short sensors on the same press. I think M&R holds the patent on the shirt sensor and I am not aware of anybody else offering them . . .pierrei know if a couple other presses that have them --they maybe just under the lawyer radar. its amazing that a simple proximity switch can be patented, for application alone .
Quote from: LuckyFlyinROUSH on January 20, 2016, 12:36:08 PMMaybe Danny or Rich can chime in.Can you have a no-shirt skip sensor in the middle of the oval, or two shirt skip sensors? if technically you wanted to print two different designs at a time on them? My guys won't run without the skip sensor, love to take a stretch their backs/take a drink in the middle of long runs.Yes we can do multiple short sensors on the same press. I think M&R holds the patent on the shirt sensor and I am not aware of anybody else offering them . . .pierre
after running 4 jobs concurrently, how much time for breakdown, and the new setups? Does it work out?Steve
Quote from: TCred on January 20, 2016, 03:52:04 PMQuote from: DannyGruninger on January 20, 2016, 01:20:45 PMRoq has a function in their presses where you can program the press to print either odd or even pallets..... So you can setup job a on the even pallets, and setup job b on the odd pallets and run two jobs at the same time.Our ECO 16/12 is set up exactly like this. We have no screen head at station 9 (and also none at 3, but that's open for a flash) and got ROQ to add a cut down control panel at the second load station so that we can run the press with 2 loaders and 1 unloader. We also have positioning lasers, skip shirt buttons and foot pedal control at both loading stations. ROQ customised the machine to our exact requirements, and even wrote a special program for the control computer.For us it's about short runs, we can print a long run (which for us is anything more than about 200 shirts!) and several smaller runs at the same time - In a market where run lengths are dropping like a stone a single press doing multiple jobs is much more efficient than the alternative of running jobs one after the other (small job customer has to wait for longer runs to finish) or having all the costs of a second machine which may or may not be fully utilised.A big multi colour press spinning for hours on a 1 or 2 colour job with most of the heads being unused while several small run 1 or 2 colour jobs wait their turn does not make sense to me.How are you setting this up? One job that maybe you run 200 of (job A)? Then a 1-2 color job of say 50 (job B)? and then another 1-2 color of 50 for job C? Do you have a loader for job A then a loader for job B, you complete job B and immediately go to job C while job A is still going?Trying to work this out in my head so things wouldn't get all mixed up.
How are you setting this up? One job that maybe you run 200 of (job A)? Then a 1-2 color job of say 50 (job B)? and then another 1-2 color of 50 for job C? Do you have a loader for job A then a loader for job B, you complete job B and immediately go to job C while job A is still going?Trying to work this out in my head so things wouldn't get all mixed up.