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Offline DannyGruninger

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Roq Electric Print Heads
« on: January 14, 2016, 11:36:11 AM »
I've had quite a few private messages/emails regarding info on the new Roq print heads that are electronically powered. Josh @ Ryonet recently did a video showing how these print heads work. Having the ability to electronically zero(home) a print head, and make extremely fine adjustments that are precise movements are really nice features imo. I find that some press ops gain a "feel" for making micros overtime and some become better at this then others. An electronic system like this eliminates that as anyone can learn to push a button and understand how much adjustment is being made. Anyways, figured I would post incase anyone is interested in checking out the new roq system.

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 11:51:06 AM »
Cool feature.  MHM has it on their 2000, 3000, 4000, and 5000 series presses.  Can you move the entire multicolor print as a group or send all colors to another color registration location?
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 12:06:35 PM »
I know some will say with the DTS machine and tri-lock your good, but this is badazz, would love to have that on my press...Roq is looking way ahead
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 12:14:05 PM »
I know some will say with the DTS machine and tri-lock your good, but this is badazz, would love to have that on my press...Roq is looking way ahead

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 12:16:32 PM »
Looks really cool. Are the motors moving the screen stepper or servo? 
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 12:36:49 PM »
Looks really cool. Are the motors moving the screen stepper or servo?

Not relevant for this purpose, you aren't relying on a closed loop for feedback and correction.
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 01:15:34 PM »
Looks really cool. Are the motors moving the screen stepper or servo?

As far as I know neither.....They are asynchronous AC induction  ;)
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 01:17:51 PM »
Looks really cool. Are the motors moving the screen stepper or servo?

As far as I know neither.....They are asynchronous AC induction  ;)

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 01:34:10 PM »
The motors are actually diesel. Cummings to be specific.


But in reality, piezoelectric.

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 02:15:59 PM »
Damn this is awesome!

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 04:05:57 PM »
I had settled on an Eco as our next press awhile back (waiting to move is killing us) but this just seals it.  We loose hours a week futzing with micros that jump all over the place and then a clamping system that can move the screen when engaged, it's senseless.   The only solution is getting that intimate knack for adjusting and it takes months for an op to get there, if they ever do.  I love that this just eliminates all that.

Questions, if there's an s.roq person on here to answer:
  • What if the electronic micro goes down, can you work manually or would you just have to unclamp and adjust by hand?
  • Can you hit a button and zero all the print heads?  Biggest problem with zeroing here is the tedium of going around each head, having a big, easy button to do it would ensure it happened every time.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the ability to dead zero the machine's heads make a pin style clamping system superior to the 3 point jig and traditional clamps?

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 04:31:09 PM »
I had settled on an Eco as our next press awhile back (waiting to move is killing us) but this just seals it.  We loose hours a week futzing with micros that jump all over the place and then a clamping system that can move the screen when engaged, it's senseless.   The only solution is getting that intimate knack for adjusting and it takes months for an op to get there, if they ever do.  I love that this just eliminates all that.

Questions, if there's an s.roq person on here to answer:
  • What if the electronic micro goes down, can you work manually or would you just have to unclamp and adjust by hand?
  • Can you hit a button and zero all the print heads?  Biggest problem with zeroing here is the tedium of going around each head, having a big, easy button to do it would ensure it happened every time.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the ability to dead zero the machine's heads make a pin style clamping system superior to the 3 point jig and traditional clamps?

Here's what I know, Roq can chime in as I don't now 100% but using the electric print heads if power goes down you would have to manually register the screen or move it to another head. As far as having a button to zero the print heads this is currently not an option but I'm going to put the request in for them to look at this on the software side. It shouldn't be anything more then an update to the software for them to be able to do a one button push which zero's everything out.

And yes, once this system gets dialed in pairing it with a pin system should be a faster process since a pallet will not have to be introduced to the press whatsoever.

This is still pretty early in development but I can see this being the future of setting up jobs and having to make micro adjustments.




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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 05:03:02 PM »
Thanks Danny.  I agree, if this is accurate, affordable, paired with a pin system it could be the ideal.  This isn't new tech, as Sonny said the high end MHMs have had them for years but the cost on those units is much higher than the Eco.

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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2016, 06:11:09 PM »
Yep, that's an awesome feature.  I wonder how much it would be used, however, with CTS.  Even with a good pre-reg and film I can see it getting some decent work but with CTS I would hope to not have to use it that much.  If I bought an Sroque I think I'd have to have that feature (assuming it doesn't cost $5K per head or close to that).
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Re: Roq Electric Print Heads
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2016, 06:37:02 PM »
Yep, that's an awesome feature.  I wonder how much it would be used, however, with CTS.  Even with a good pre-reg and film I can see it getting some decent work but with CTS I would hope to not have to use it that much.  If I bought an Sroque I think I'd have to have that feature (assuming it doesn't cost $5K per head or close to that).

we thought that that too....but we've yet to set up a job that's 100% perfect non micro needed with a CTS and g3
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