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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2016, 11:08:53 AM »
We run our Sprint 2000 HO at 1 min retention and 330.  But we also do a good amount of poly/blends.  Keeps the guess work out belt speed adjustments if your temps are right! :)
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2016, 11:31:12 AM »
360 and 24 belt speed which is a retention of about 30 seconds here.
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2016, 02:11:34 PM »
on our mini-sprint:

350 at 11 for Plastisol (a little under 1 minute retention)
295 at 9 for plastisol on poly with performance ink.
330 at 4 for wb/discharge work

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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2016, 02:32:43 PM »
Not sure what our speed is since ours doesn't display belt speed.  You simply tell it how long you want the shirt in the chamber.
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2016, 02:39:25 PM »
1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)

30 seconds is 24'

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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2016, 02:45:09 PM »
1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)

30 seconds is 24'

Yup I get it, what matters is temp and how long its in the dryer. ;) 
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2016, 06:10:27 PM »
Great dryer, I have seen one of those puppies first hand.
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2016, 09:06:55 PM »
Not to stray too far, but Gabe, do you use Purple Haze remover?
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2016, 11:53:57 PM »
1 min retention on a 12' chamber is 12' per minute. ;)

30 seconds is 24'

Yup I get it, what matters is temp and how long its in the dryer. ;)

How dare I take you at your word... My bad.

Not sure what our speed is since ours doesn't display belt speed.  You simply tell it how long you want the shirt in the chamber.

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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2016, 06:56:54 AM »
I can do the math which is what the "yup" was for after I thought about it for a few seconds. My prior post was to point out that this dryer now works more logically.  Tell it how long you want it in the chamber. So to that point I had no longer cared about the belt speed nor do I really now about belt speed....so I spent not even a second on that math, thus "not sure" response followed by how the dryer works now and what's actually relevant to the process. How you arrive at your last post, no idea outside you trolling like normal.

Troll on!
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2016, 10:02:17 AM »
Well, your post immediately followed a post by Jason, who was trying to help you out, with belt speeds.  He didn't give retention time on each one... So to translate, you would need to do the math.

Sorry, no trolling, just trying to be f*cking helpful... What the f*ck was I thinking.

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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2016, 10:43:16 AM »
Well, your post immediately followed a post by Jason, who was trying to help you out, with belt speeds.  He didn't give retention time on each one... So to translate, you would need to do the math.

Sorry, no trolling, just trying to be f*cking helpful... What the f*ck was I thinking.

I am aware I would need to do math if I wanted to know how they relate. As you can see by each person posting all our settings are pretty all over the place so one doesn't really directly relate to the next.  I was simply pointing out for those without this dryer or looking at this dryer that there is no belt speed setting. Id didn't/don't need to do the math since we (like anyone else) would use a donut probe to get to where we need to be. We used M&R's jump off point and the probe to get to our settings.  So why would I trouble myself with math of a situation that doesn't directly relate. IMO you were just taking a opportunity to try to make it sound like I didn't know how to do the math.
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2016, 10:52:16 AM »
My question is, how do you afford all this incredible new gear constantly?  Can I have your formula?
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2016, 11:16:58 AM »
My question is, how do you afford all this incredible new gear constantly?  Can I have your formula?

Easy, putting the business first. Not being too greedy early was the biggest thing.  We worked 10 years really before we really kept much of any money personally and reinvested basically everything for that period. We both drove 10 year old paid for cars until 2013 and really had no major personal purchases for the bulk of our time in business. We bought our building in 2012 before we bought a home even which our bank said was super rare. 500k building we snagged for $330k due to bank tired of the current owner not paying mortgage/taxes and the market was still pretty depressed here, so they were all about a quick easy deal. It has a second suite which we rent to a coffee warehouse for about 2/3rd the mortgage. So that was a no brainier really when it came time to buy the place the renter was in a longer term lease. We actually saved $900 a month buy buying the shop. So low overhead on the building. We hired 4 employees before we ever even considered any serious personal expenses which I find is pretty rare with many businesses. Most start making money and then immediately get into homes/kids/trips and so on. I still don't take days off other than holidays. Often work weekends at least a bit.

Everything we do personally is only if things are good at the shop and we'd sell our home/cars/whatever tomorrow if we had any real trouble at the shop. We pay cash for almost everything at the shop so that keeps cash flow really good.  We only owe for our Challenger 3D and 2 embroidery machines. Everything else has been cash deals. Even the monthly note on those items really isn't much, about a day of sales covers them.

I don't know all the answers on how to run a business with money but I do see many businesses having people living beyond their means really early and/or not putting the business first. I figure every dollar I spend in this business has came back with other dollars it's found so I will continue to invest in it. It's worked for us to this point.
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Re: Going to be getting hot in here!
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2016, 11:26:07 AM »
Wow.  Thank you!  I didn't expect that thorough of a reply to my cheeky comment.  I seriously appreciate your response.
I must be on the right track then.  I lived in my shop for the first few years, drive a 2005 truck bought for a few thousand cash, and all my equipment was paid for in cash.  I do have a bad habit of buying classic cars and hot rods, but you know...my guess is collectively they were cheaper than your Vette.  Thanks for the motivation!
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