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Offline Doug S

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Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« on: September 27, 2015, 12:01:18 PM »
I've been slowly converting to Wilflex for all of my colors except white which I'm sticking with legacy.  The dallas red looks great and has a nice deep red look on medium darks to light colors.  The problem I'm having is that anytime I print it over an underbase, it looks pinkish red.  I've tried flashing longer and even over flashing but the result is the same so I end up cleaning the screen and using international coatings or QCM red instead.

Any idea of what I might be doing wrong or is that the norm?
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 01:05:40 PM »
My first guess would be that that particular ink is too translucent to deposit as thin as you are doing. Maybe a lower mesh count?
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 01:37:49 PM »
My bad, I forgot to mention that the underbase is on a 150 s mesh and the dallas red was through a 180 s mesh.
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 06:51:47 PM »
For me. flash it longer.
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 07:40:17 PM »
Thanks Guys,  I never even considered wilflex standard colors being a bit transparent.  That would make sense though.
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2015, 11:05:10 AM »
The 42000PFX Epic Dallas Scarlet ink is formulated to maintain a long time standard color for Wilflex inks.  It is designed to provide a very clean shade of deep red.  To improve your overprint color strength, you can try making on press adjustments to increase the ink film thickness.  Using a coarser mesh count, softer, more rounded edge squeegee and a less vertical print angle will all help increase ink film deposit.
Alternatively, we offer the 42270PFX Epic Super Drake Red and 40500PFX Epic Super Red inks that are formulated with more opacity.  These inks will improve color strength of your overprints if you make no on press changes.
Steve Hedge
Technical Services Manager, Specialty Inks & Polymer Systems - PolyOne Corporation, Wilflex Inks
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Office: 800-326-0226, ext. 2257

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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2015, 01:16:44 PM »
Welcome Steve. You should stop in the intro section, too
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 02:01:21 PM »
I have to thank Steve at Wilflex for giving me a call just because I posted a question.  Them just like M&R are top notch companies.
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Re: Wilflex Dallas Red over an underbase
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2015, 02:03:06 PM »
I have to thank Steve at Wilflex for giving me a call just because I posted a question.  Them just like M&R are top notch companies.

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