"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
Quote from: alan802 on July 07, 2015, 04:38:51 PMCall it a favor for one, next is perhaps we ask more from our white ink than others...I guess that's why. I've always thought Union Cotton White was the standard for which to start judging a white ink, but it's lacking the opacity and flash time for us, and it's matte down is probably average. I put a higher need for opacity and matte down due to our style (one-hits, less use of top/highlight whites on jobs, etc) and having an ink that flashes really fast makes things SO much easier when printing PITA high color count spot jobs on darks. I find cotton inks typically flash longer than LB's and have higher after flash tack which causes all kinds of problems with the goofy jobs we do.And I'd say that the average large shop here in the states is quite different than the shops here that don't have a high need for a standard cotton white. And I guess another reason why I'm doing this is so someone might get some benefit out of it and be thankful they didn't have to do it, I just enjoy it for many reasons.Alan all good points. I hope you didn't take my post as you are wasting your time. I didn't mean it that way. Any time you can test an ink and get your shop familiar with what you can do with it is a plus. I love testing products but as I have said in the past. Each shop is different and each ink needs a special set up to print well. You have things you look for in a ink, you mentioned them earlier. Is that based on what make an ink good or is that the variables that fit your shops print style. I have printed tons of LB white inks, they all print great when you get your press dialed in for them. Some are more forgiving then others but they all do the job. Keep up the good work. One of these days I will be in Texas and come see you. My brother lives about 30 mins from you.
Call it a favor for one, next is perhaps we ask more from our white ink than others...I guess that's why. I've always thought Union Cotton White was the standard for which to start judging a white ink, but it's lacking the opacity and flash time for us, and it's matte down is probably average. I put a higher need for opacity and matte down due to our style (one-hits, less use of top/highlight whites on jobs, etc) and having an ink that flashes really fast makes things SO much easier when printing PITA high color count spot jobs on darks. I find cotton inks typically flash longer than LB's and have higher after flash tack which causes all kinds of problems with the goofy jobs we do.And I'd say that the average large shop here in the states is quite different than the shops here that don't have a high need for a standard cotton white. And I guess another reason why I'm doing this is so someone might get some benefit out of it and be thankful they didn't have to do it, I just enjoy it for many reasons.
If I win the lottery, I'll pay for everyone's travel to and from a designated shop 4-5 times per year, gotta go buy some tickets so I can make this happen.
Any updates on this Alan?
The ink is from Joe Clarke, Clarke Product Renovation. The same Joe that brought you Smilin' Jacks and Control Without Confusion.