Don Fenno buyers beware/Scam

[kingscreen]

Spot Color Supply has been the only broker for used equipment that I didn't find completely scam-y or just rubbed me the wrong way.
I even recently purchased a dryer used that they weren't even involved with, purchase wise, but I still had them help me move it and they charged me next to nothing.  Brannon and Scott are stand up guys.

[KevWilso]

We get asked by many of our customers if we sell used equipment or want to help sell their used equipment.  I typically just ask them to email what they have, and if I hear something I forward the email to the potential buyer.  I always say in my email; "any further questions on this you should work with the seller, and I suggest have a tech check it out."; and stay completely out of it.  IMO there is too much that go wrong with trying to broker used equipment, and much of it would be out of a brokers control to fix if it the deal goes south.   

[Sbrem]

The bulk of our equipment has been bought used; nothing without being seen first, money is 50% down, 50% when it is delivered. We have a guy in the New England area, but I never get a good feeling from him... Fortunately we know our way around the stuff and can pretty much tell the condition when we check it out.

Steve

[danlilsade]

I am posting regarding used vs new, I am not going chime in regarding anyone.  Used is a great buy if you are careful and knowledgeable of the machine you are purchasing.  Remember the broker did not manufacture the machine, the specifications need to come from the original manufacturer. If you ask a broker (or owner) specifics of speed or capabilities,  you will likely get a "best guess", the correct information would come from a Google search of the machine at the manufacturer's website. 

Dryers are stupid expensive brand new, this one one place where real money can be saved in the used market.  You owe it to yourself to personally inspect the machine your are considering, if you can't travel it is worth the money to send a competent technician or your mechanic to look the unit over prior to sending money.  Regarding used presses, send your lead printer with some art (or screens) on a road trip, allow 8 hours to spend with the machine.  Test print it with your art (screens).  New presses are often near $100k or more, unless you are already independently wealthy, used machines are not a bad decision.  Slow months come, lease payments don't take a vacation in these months, consider how you will survive the off months. 

In general treat the money you are spending like purchasing a used (or new) car, take it around the block, look under the hood and ask a lot of questions.  Due diligence is important when dealing with a broker (or any seller) ask your competitors, ink salesmen or a message board about the seller before handing any cash over.  Sometimes people set themselves up for a good f****ng. 

[shirtguy]

Update

I got a voicemail from Don same day i posted this about him.

 His words not mine  "working feverishly to get you the deposit back"

that was 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure but i thought feverishly meant fast? It's been one excuse/lie after another. Every dog has there day.

[shirtguy]

Just a update. When i posted this In Jan 2015  i got a voice mail from don "i'm working feverishly to get your deposit returned"

5 months later and now and (9 months since he cashed my check) and no money has been returned. He's actively sending sale listings of dryers and presses. I never got mine.  Buyer Beware so it doesn't happen to you.

Marc

[LoneWolf2]

Sounds like you need to pay his kneecaps a visit with a bat.

[jrbestinknthread]

Hello my name is Junior I own a screen printing and embroidery company in southern California
I have a business partner name ray also we are reaching out to warm people about a machine broker
That goes by the name “Don Fenno”  we made a deal with him a few months ago with a machine that
He was going to get us for 70,000 so we wired him 63,000 to his account well it’s been more than 2 months
He told us that the machine owner did not want to sell his machine anymore so we ask for out money back
Now he is just giving us the run around with lies after lies at this point we are starting a lawsuit against him
And will be posting on all forums about what he has done to us and others we recently talk to another person
That he has done this to.. Don't know if this will help me recover my money but at least warn people of the kind
Of business man that he is a lier a thief.. We are honest and hard working people that are only trying to better our
Company .. I know a lot of people might not agree and thinks he is a honorable and honest man but we
Have plenty of prof contracts and email from him to prove it...

Please don’t be the next person that this happens to

Don't trust don fenno

And for the record it was Steve Vermillion who recommended him who know will not answer our calls...

Thanks for taking the time to read this ...

Junior Vice President
Ray President

www.bestinkandthread.com
jr@bestinkandthread.com

[Frog]

1. I'm sorry that you didn't drop by here sooner and would have seen the heads up. I'd want more than the word of one guy (who now seems just as flaky) before my next point.
2. There are not too many folks I'd send $63,000 for a sight-unseen untested used machine (let alone one not even in their possession)

[jrbestinknthread]

i wish i would have research the forums first so now i am trying to let as many people know as i can so they don't get screw by him like we are right now..

[Frog]

Hopefully you'll be glad you did and become a regular here for other things. Being the "Best" in both ink and thread, I'm sure you have a lot to offer. Welcome aboard!

[3Deep]

How in the world do you send that kind of money to a person without making sure what your getting, at least have put your hand on the equipment, seen it with your own eye's.  63K ain't the kind of money I'm willing to let go of without unless it's with a well known company like Anatol, M&R, Workhorse, MHM, Sroq etc...I wouldn't trust a jack leg ass broker with that kind of money for nothing in the world.

darryl

[Sbrem]

We've bought both new and used, but never from a broker. They make my "spider sense" tingle...

Steve

[jrbestinknthread]

he was recommended by a local broker that we deal with from time to time so we trusted his word and the deal look so good that we just jump into it but that will never happen again now we hope we can move forward and and keep focus on our business we are still going to blow up the social media and forums to warn people from crooks like him and hope nobody falls into the situation that we did...