Slime, proudly made with CCI mixing white

[Rockers]

I know I touched on this already in another post recently. But I was wondering if it`s only us who got this problem that when mixing a discharge ink that calls for some  mixing white from CCI  it turns into an unusable slime once the activator has been added. And there is as well this milky colored fluid separating from the ink. Looks all really unpleasant, prints rather badly and makes the mixing white a rather useless product.
I know I can use CCI`s discharge white instead but I can`t be the only one who has noticed this problem. Anyone ever got in touch with CCI about this issue?

[Hey Monkey]

Happened to me once. I just shook the crap out of the white pigment. I mean shook it like crazy. It seems to separate like oil and water or something. Once I shoot it up real good and remixed a batch it was fine. But your mileage may vary. Just wanted to chime in.

[StuJohnston]

You aren't the only one, I have posted about this in the past as well. I think the age of the white has something to do with it as well. Something that mitigated it a little was to add only one thing at a time, stirring in between each, and then add the agent at the end.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

I've never had slime, but I get chunks of unmixed pigment. I've stopped using it, and instead reach for the D-White and mix it in about like the mixing white pigment equivalent, by weight.

No problems any more.  But that's just me.

[Rockers]

You aren't the only one, I have posted about this in the past as well. I think the age of the white has something to do with it as well. Something that mitigated it a little was to add only one thing at a time, stirring in between each, and then add the agent at the end.

That`s what we do, base first, then pigments, mix them in, all fine, then the activator hits the base-ink mixture and then it all goes all bad. Slime, white milky liquid. And that even happened with some fresh white pigments we had just received from CCI. I`m wonder if certain conditions during transport make the pigs go bad?

[screenprintguy]

We never use the mixing white, instead, we use the discharge white at double the amount called for and never have problems.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

We never use the mixing white, instead, we use the discharge white at double the amount called for and never have problems.

Hey Mike, I've been trying to mix it 1:1 by weight.
     For example 15 Grams of Mixing White=15 grams CCI D-White

You must have better luck using more D-White than I do, but I'm interested to hear you massage the topic a bit more.  At any rate, I NEVER use the mixing white. It is trouble....

Stan

[screenprintguy]

We never use the mixing white, instead, we use the discharge white at double the amount called for and never have problems.

Hey Mike, I've been trying to mix it 1:1 by weight.
     For example 15 Grams of Mixing White=15 grams CCI D-White

You must have better luck using more D-White than I do, but I'm interested to hear you massage the topic a bit more.  At any rate, I NEVER use the mixing white. It is trouble....

Stan

I know what you mean Stan, that mixing white is just trouble for sure. Ok so say a recipe is calling for 20 grams of mixing white, I will use 40 grams of D-White. You have to figure that D-White is factory mix of white and base that they have figured out to perfection at CCI. Meaning the D-White won't have the same opacity/concentration as the mixing white pigment. There have been rare occasions where I may have needed to even boost that another 10% depending on the pain in the tail shirt or shirt color we would be printing on. For instance we did a job last month that has a cotton candy looking pink pig in the design. The mix needed 50 grams of mixing white for the amount we were mixing, I started with 100 grams of D-White, whipped it all up, and then activated it, gave it a test, 10% more of D-white hit the color on the head. Since the Dwhite being mixing in was less than 30% over all of the mix it also printed wet on wet nicley. As I always do, I added 3% matsui print gen to it which always helps with the wet on wet not sticking with any mix I do containing a bit of dwhite. Really I use the PrintGen and Fixer En in every discharge mix except doing a straight underbase with plastisol tops. The interactions of those additives with plastisol cause a mess and it's always best, "for me", to go with just plain Jane CCI discharge with 4% activator for a discharge base. This is all just what I've experienced here and what works for us.

[Orion]

Good info there screenprintguy, thanks for sharing.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Recieved and understood, Mike.

I'm doing it that way next time.

Thanks!

[ol man]

We never use the mixing white, instead, we use the discharge white at double the amount called for and never have problems.

Hey Mike, I've been trying to mix it 1:1 by weight.
     For example 15 Grams of Mixing White=15 grams CCI D-White

You must have better luck using more D-White than I do, but I'm interested to hear you massage the topic a bit more.  At any rate, I NEVER use the mixing white. It is trouble....

Stan

I know what you mean Stan, that mixing white is just trouble for sure. Ok so say a recipe is calling for 20 grams of mixing white, I will use 40 grams of D-White. You have to figure that D-White is factory mix of white and base that they have figured out to perfection at CCI. Meaning the D-White won't have the same opacity/concentration as the mixing white pigment. There have been rare occasions where I may have needed to even boost that another 10% depending on the pain in the tail shirt or shirt color we would be printing on. For instance we did a job last month that has a cotton candy looking pink pig in the design. The mix needed 50 grams of mixing white for the amount we were mixing, I started with 100 grams of D-White, whipped it all up, and then activated it, gave it a test, 10% more of D-white hit the color on the head. Since the Dwhite being mixing in was less than 30% over all of the mix it also printed wet on wet nicley. As I always do, I added 3% matsui print gen to it which always helps with the wet on wet not sticking with any mix I do containing a bit of dwhite. Really I use the PrintGen and Fixer En in every discharge mix except doing a straight underbase with plastisol tops. The interactions of those additives with plastisol cause a mess and it's always best, "for me", to go with just plain Jane CCI discharge with 4% activator for a discharge base. This is all just what I've experienced here and what works for us.

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