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S Mesh Screens
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:47:29 PM »
Ok I know this ain't nothing new but I finally bought some sample screens of S mesh from Kevin over at River City, just use the first one today 135/48 very F'ing impressed, one print stroke and it clear all the ink light pressure.  I've jump on the band wagon of other products and didn't like them, but this mesh I like and Kevin can expect another order from me, when I have time think I'm going to change all the rollers frames to this mesh...got two more mesh cts to check out, if they print as well as the 135 I'm sold.   Hey Alan thanks for the push and Kev for shipping so quickly. 8)

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 12:51:10 PM »
Just be sure to handle them carefully. Don't bang them against each other and if you happen to use them on a back clamp manual make sure to put a strip of tape where it clamps against the frame. Delicate mesh but works very well, even reclaims are easier.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2015, 01:14:21 PM »
Welcome aboard! I switched almost my whole inventory of screens to s mesh and love it.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 01:23:51 PM »
as far as static screens go, River City's S are the best I have ever put through here. not a single complaint...
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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 01:39:58 PM »
as far as static screens go, River City's S are the best I have ever put through here. not a single complaint...

Ditto! I make sure we cycle them through reclaim chop chop so we can use them again. Our old statics are in a lonely stack against the back wall :-(
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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2015, 01:52:36 PM »
We have way to many screens to change all of them out at once without spending some serious dollars, but I'm going to buy a few every month and let my wife make flower planters or something out of the old wood statics we have.
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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2015, 01:54:23 PM »
Not to take away from Kevin, but another option is Kings Mountain Screen Supply http://www.kmssllc.com/. I have ordered NEW frames from Keith as well as sent him 12 old frames to restretch. All came in above 20 newtons for 150S mesh. I ordered from him because he's only one state over from me. I also order my Aquasol from him now.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 02:54:35 PM »
I get all my screens, emulsion, and film from Keith at KMSS.  Easy to deal with.  Helps that I'm only a few miles from him!

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2015, 03:01:27 PM »
we absolutely love s-mesh here..

- we may have a solution to our local stretching company, they're stretching up a half dozen screens for us, and we're both hoping that they come in and stay at acceptable tension levels.  I have another 24 or so frames to have restretched here, so it would be nice to not be throwing them away.

- all of our day-to-day screens are retensionables and we get 110S, 160S (white), 225S panels from Shurloc.

- we prefer to put 'archive' jobs on statics, so it's good to have both sources.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 03:16:02 PM »
What are you stretching your s-mesh panels to? I am just starting with newmans and I have popped a few screens taking them around 35n. I know better now that I have looked at the chart, but I wanted input from someone more experienced. I also mostly use the 160s and 225s.


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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2015, 03:38:26 PM »
I used to go directly by Murakami's recommended tension levels, down to the newton, but now I take everything to 25 newtons (unless that's higher than the recommended level) with one exception.  I put our 180/48's to 30 and have been thinking about doing the 150's the same way.  I try to find that happy medium to keep performance up without taking away from durability. 
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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2015, 03:44:44 PM »
I used to go directly by Murakami's recommended tension levels, down to the newton, but now I take everything to 25 newtons (unless that's higher than the recommended level) with one exception.  I put our 180/48's to 30 and have been thinking about doing the 150's the same way.  I try to find that happy medium to keep performance up without taking away from durability.

We're at 24-25N across the board as well.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2015, 06:34:56 PM »
I used to go directly by Murakami's recommended tension levels, down to the newton, but now I take everything to 25 newtons (unless that's higher than the recommended level) with one exception.  I put our 180/48's to 30 and have been thinking about doing the 150's the same way.  I try to find that happy medium to keep performance up without taking away from durability.

Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to keep your 150's intact at 30n, but I don't think its realistic for most shops and the increase in fragility would likely far outweigh any benefits on the print side of things.  I personally haven't been able to keep a 150 at 26n or above without losing it within days on both older and new mesh, but I'm overall still a bit green in the roller game.  180's on the other hand seem to have way more wiggle room than 150's, and we definitely push them a bit farther without issue.

 


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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2015, 06:59:41 PM »
Remember that keeping the screen intact doesn't guarantee you're at a sensible tension for the mesh to be printed at...

If you manage to run a mesh count at a significant amount of tension over what's recommended, you will start breaking threads, and it's also much more likely to split during mishandling instead of just getting a little hole.

I'm with J and Alan, although 28-30 is my default I run 25 on 150S and my 305 meshes.

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Re: S Mesh Screens
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »
This pretty much sums it up...

http://murakamiscreen.com/stretching-smartmesh-on-common-stretching-devices/

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