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Offline ericheartsu

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scoop coaters
« on: June 08, 2015, 10:29:19 AM »
this might be a silly question, but i figured i'd ask anyway.

Our vastex semi-auto coater comes in on wed. or thursday of this week, and i was thinking about buying a new scoop coater, as I haven't bought a new one in about 7 years.

Any HOT COOL HIP coaters to look at?
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 10:36:14 AM »
Folks seem to really dig The Monster Max

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 10:44:05 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TKdj5-K9ns

Monster Max - 19"

Would not go back to any other option for my standard screens, though for my super enormous screens I have one similar to this: http://www.anthemprintingsf.com/AWT-Pro-Angle-Emulsion-Scoop-Coater-p/awt-sc1.htm and it works well enough and isn't too heavy considering it is 40 something inches long.

Neither option has a round side and a sharp side.  The Monster Max kind of has a middle ground between classic sharp and round.  It also holds a ton of emulsion so you can do lots of screens without having to refill.  Easy to control, etc.  I believe in the instructions they suggest putting tape on to get the end caps in the "right" position so the blade sat a tiny bit away from the screen, but I prefer them exactly flush with the blade of the coater.  It led to too much emulsion and mess with the extra distance due to the tape.

The second option I linked is pretty sharp, but precise eom isn't something I really care about for my huge screens.  They are pretty much all waterbased and all one color prints.

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2015, 12:07:45 PM »
I had a monster max and went back to the old school Sefar coater.  It took about 1 extra coat per screen on middle and high mesh screens to get a glisten versus my Sefar coater.  So I can get to my target EOM with less work with the traditional coater, but others who coat differently may get different results. 
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2015, 12:41:37 PM »
I have a monster max, used it twice and put it on the shelf.
I should qualify that I coat with one hand and I just could not get the thing to perform like my 18 inch AWT coater.
It is unwieldy  kind of top heavy and just uncomfortable to hold (one handed).
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2015, 01:18:12 PM »
I have a monster max, used it twice and put it on the shelf.
I should qualify that I coat with one hand and I just could not get the thing to perform like my 18 inch AWT coater.
It is unwieldy  kind of top heavy and just uncomfortable to hold (one handed).
mooseman

but it's got those bottle opener slots. (you probably get cans)
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 01:38:32 PM »
I coat one handed.  It is super easy with the 19" monster max for me, even completely full.  shrug.

I coat slow and steady and 1/1 on every S mesh and lower standard mesh, 2/1 on higher standard mesh.  I am getting very even, solid glisten on the other side like that.  It probably takes me about 10 seconds a side and the screen is angled maybe 15 degrees from vertical.

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2015, 04:09:56 PM »
The AWT Pro Coat 2 has a round and sharp size.  We use these in a variety of sizes. It's big advantage is the lips on either end that will catch any emulsion drips effectively.

Also have a Monster Super Ultra Max one or whatever it's called and it's pretty slick but, as Mimosa mentioned, it's edge is kind of an in-between and will give different results so it hasn't made it into production for lack of time to standardize it.   I like the deeper trough of the Max one. 

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2015, 07:43:09 PM »
We really like the AWT coaters and the Sericol ones. Reminds me I have to cut our Sericol coater down in size a little.

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2015, 07:50:49 PM »
I like our monster max but like mimosa said we set the edge flush with the end caps. I generally coat 2/1 single hand and get consistent results.
I believe M&R is using it on their auto coasters.

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2015, 08:20:55 PM »
I like our monster max but like mimosa said we set the edge flush with the end caps. I generally coat 2/1 single hand and get consistent results.
I believe M&R is using it on their auto coasters.


Here's one of their older Auto Coasters, LOL!
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2015, 06:58:35 AM »
SNORT!!

Where EVER do you find this stuff???

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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2015, 09:23:00 AM »
I have a monster max, used it twice and put it on the shelf.
I should qualify that I coat with one hand and I just could not get the thing to perform like my 18 inch AWT coater.
It is unwieldy  kind of top heavy and just uncomfortable to hold (one handed).
mooseman

but it's got those bottle opener slots. (you probably get cans)

GENNY CREAM ALE  in the easy opening cans if you have a church key :P
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2015, 10:39:26 AM »
I like our monster max but like mimosa said we set the edge flush with the end caps. I generally coat 2/1 single hand and get consistent results.
I believe M&R is using it on their auto coasters.
We do use the same style coater as the Monster with an agreement with them but have redesigned it a little. Ours has a sharp and round edge as well as a few other slight changes.
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Re: scoop coaters
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2015, 12:54:20 PM »
Rich knew what I said.