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Offline mimosatexas

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2015, 12:53:13 PM »
Green Galaxy HSA is made in Italy (or was as of a year and a half ago) and is distributed by Ryonet. 

Ryonet waterbase ink systems are from both CCI and Matsui, maybe some others I am not aware of.

Their plastisols are through IC (and modified to their specs) with the exception of the plastisol Comet/Meteor White (I always get the names mixed up) which is made by Green Galaxy.

Thanks for the clarification!


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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 12:56:55 PM »
Looks amazing as always Brandon!

How many screens for the white?
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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2015, 01:03:39 PM »
Thanks Colin but we have a long way to catch up to you! It is an underbase sepped for the metallic gold and then also a highlite white. None of that three screens for a white thing. Nice and white and soft!

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2015, 01:58:43 PM »
Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2015, 03:40:54 PM »
Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.

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Agreed!  We're 2 screens when running a DC UB + HSA White top or on certain fabrics but 3 screens for others. 

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2015, 04:08:37 PM »
Getting a nice bright white out of HSA with 2 screens is not an easy task.... not like with plastisol.

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Agree as well.  Here is a couple pics from MagnaColours at the FESPA show last week.  (Photos courtesy of  Screenprinting Magazine - screenweb.com)

High solids white - Aquaflex white Vector Art design on the M&R Sportsman. It was a 2 colour design and the black was MagnaPrint FF & 6 % black NGN.  3 screens of white 1 x 43T (110) 2 x 61T (150) and the Black was also on a 61T (150) one screen so:

White 110 - Flash - White 150- Flash - White 150 - Flash - Black 150.
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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2015, 04:34:57 PM »
We are liking the Aquaflex, slowly migrating to using it more and more when needing a white instead of the plastisol.
Did these a few weeks ago using two 160's P/F/P, could hardly feel the print. Hard to see in the pic but it was a nice bright white.

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2015, 04:40:18 PM »
So that's technically a 4 color production job? How many screens do the customer pay for? And what kind of minimum qtys will cover a job like this?

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Re: Quick question about waterbased printing
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2015, 04:53:23 PM »
So that's technically a 4 color production job? How many screens do the customer pay for? And what kind of minimum qtys will cover a job like this?

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Yep, with 3 flashes.  In our shop they pay for the additional colors (and flashing, depending on tier pricing) just as with any other job, no upcharge for the actual use of the ink, normal minimums. 

Cost is a barrier.  A bigger barrier is press size needed.