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Offline mhprinting

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Need some advice on this artwork
« on: April 10, 2015, 06:39:05 PM »
Hello all,

I need some help on the particular job.  Attached is the image.  The separations are okay, but I'm not sure if they are good seps.
Here are the colors we will be using:
-Red
-Metallic Silver
-White base
-Black
-Yellow

I will be using all wilflex inks and this will be printed on a diamondback s.

Any suggestions with what mesh I should use and how to do this job?  I'm considering outsourcing the seps to someone else as I am still fairly new.

Thanks!


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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 08:05:58 PM »
I'm not going to make any mesh or even print order suggestions, but can tell you that this is essentially already separated except for the fact that its creator used two different blacks, RGB, and Hexachrome. Other than that (an easy fix) it is all spot colors which will spit out as plates when you tell your printer to do so via your graphics program.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 10:40:09 PM »
I see this as a white, yellow, red, black

I come up with a halftone black for the pot and borders.  I guess you could do silver, but I don't think it's necessary.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 11:41:42 PM »
I see this as a white, yellow, red, black

I come up with a halftone black for the pot and borders.  I guess you could do silver, but I don't think it's necessary.

If the folks want and expect silver, then a halftone gray (or even a spot color cool gray) ain't gonna cut it.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2015, 11:51:50 PM »
I see this as a white, yellow, red, black

I come up with a halftone black for the pot and borders.  I guess you could do silver, but I don't think it's necessary.
I think the pot is almost the focal point of the image. I don't think halftone would work on that

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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2015, 11:58:24 PM »
Here's another question. 

If this is going on white shirts, no need to print the white, making it a red, yellow, pot-grey, and black.

Obviously, it's what was sold to the custy. 

I was only working with the minimal info given and I do try to keep my screens to the minimum, if possible.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 12:31:12 AM »
Color of shirt would us help you. If navy or dark color under base all of it. Everything will pop then. What are you using for a program corel or adobe ?? The attached is cleaned up.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2015, 12:59:27 AM »
These will be going on a sapphire, heather green, and electric green shirts.  The customer wants the pot to be metallic silver.  Wherever there is grey in the image, the client wants metallic silver.  I did the art through corel x6.  It's going to be all spot colors.  Are there any areas in the art I should change or is it good to go?  What mesh do you guys recommend me using?

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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2015, 03:15:19 PM »
I tend to shoot my underbase at about a 75% halftone with 168-190 mesh and top coats at 230 mesh for spot colors.
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2015, 03:42:32 PM »
If you're printing wilflex liquid silver, you're gonna want to flash it and put a layer of soft hand clear or other clear on top so it doesn't tarnish after the first or 2nd wash.

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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 05:02:01 PM »
If you're printing wilflex liquid silver, you're gonna want to flash it and put a layer of soft hand clear or other clear on top so it doesn't tarnish after the first or 2nd wash.

Or use a shimmer. I changed over years ago for almost all gold and silver jobs (and the occasional copper)
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 07:28:06 PM »
Oh, I forgot the metallic requirement.  Won't the shimmer require a more open mesh?
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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 10:51:58 AM »
I'm thinking of using the Liquid Silver, but I've never used it before.  Any tips?  Also, the submitted artwork underbased the liquid silver, is that okay?  I'm thinking of using either an 86 or 110 mesh for the liquid silver.

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Re: Need some advice on this artwork
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 11:33:57 AM »
we've had good results with liquid silver even through 156mesh... but like I mentioned above... you will likely want to put a coat of softhand clear on top of it, as it does like to tarnish after being washed a few times, and ends up at a very muted almost non-metallic grey.

looks awesome after printing tho...