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Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« on: March 21, 2015, 05:41:21 AM »
Stop the presses and have a look at our new screen coating stand. With food paddle to tighten and release the bottom clamp. Finished off in a well known blue color.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 09:23:48 AM by Frog »


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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2015, 05:44:43 AM »
For an to me unknown reason the photos are not facing the right direction. Landscape is surly inferior compared to portrait in this case. Sorry folks.

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2015, 09:25:59 AM »
For an to me unknown reason the photos are not facing the right direction. Landscape is surly inferior compared to portrait in this case. Sorry folks.

Phone pics right? Frog's got your back  ;)
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2015, 10:42:26 AM »
cool beans...that gets a moosegoldberg 5 ANTLERS UP rating

FYI here is the rating chart
MOOSEGOLDBERG ANTLER RATING CHART

5 ANTLERS UP
HIGH QUALITY , WELL MADE, PROFESSIONAL LOOK, WELL DONE
KICKS ASS AND TAKES NAMES

4 ANTLERS UP
NICE QUALITY , WELL MADE, LOOKS LIKE IT WILL WORK AS PLANNED
EVERYONE SHOULD BE THIS GOOD

3 ANTLERS UP
LOOKS NICE , SHOULD HOLD UP OR WORK WELL YOU SHOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOUR EFFORT

2 ANTLERS UP
LOOKS OK , NOT BAD FOR SOMETHING THOUGHT UP AND BUILT IN A FLASH.

1 ANTLER UP
NICE TRY LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK

1 ANTLER DOWN
NICE TRY LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK AFTER A REVISION OR TWO

2 ANTLERS DOWN
NEEDS A LITTLE MORE WORK OR SOMEONE ELSE WORKING ON IT

3 ANTLERS DOWN
TAKE UP STAMP COLLECTING
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2015, 10:50:22 AM »
yep, almost transcends the DIY label!
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2015, 02:51:38 PM »
Very nice,
this is commercial grade screen coating stand.
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2015, 03:03:02 PM »
Wow! This is great quality!

Vastex just came out with stands like this, and also a "semi-automatic" one. Hit the foot pedal and it will lower the screen.

This one looks every bit as quality as professional quality as the Vastex stand. Great work!

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 06:33:11 PM »
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback and compliments.
Next up a new screen drying cabinet, first we will make one from wood as a sort of prototype;)

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2015, 09:16:10 PM »
I may be looking at it wrong, but it looks like the main unit is bolted to the wall and the screen is slanted so that the top is out further than the bottom.

I might be coating wrong, but I have to lean the screen in when coating and then lean it out to terminate and cut the emulsion so it does not drip everywhere.

Does it hinge somehow so it can lean out to cut the emulsion?
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2015, 11:48:11 PM »
I may be looking at it wrong, but it looks like the main unit is bolted to the wall and the screen is slanted so that the top is out further than the bottom.

I might be coating wrong, but I have to lean the screen in when coating and then lean it out to terminate and cut the emulsion so it does not drip everywhere.

Does it hinge somehow so it can lean out to cut the emulsion?
That might be an optical illusion, lets not forget the photos were taken with a shitty Iphone. The top is actually  a little closer to the wall then the bottom.

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2015, 12:08:39 PM »
Okay, then I take it that it is rigid (except for the spring loading holding the screen).

If the top is slanted closer to the wall how to you manage to terminate the stroke at the top without having emulsion run down when you tip the scoop coater back?

Don't mean to be a wet mooseman blanket here, but I think I'd have a problem using something like that having emulsion running all over the place after the up stroke.  You  have given me some ideas though as I tend to set the screen on a trash can and the screen has occasionally slid. 

Maybe in addition to having the springs hold the screen, a handle at the top allowing movement to lean the top away from the wall when terminating the stroke. 

Maybe I'm really missing something.
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2015, 12:29:36 PM »
When I coat screens they are tilted against a wall with the top being closer to the wall also. No problems with emulsion dripping. I do use two hands on the coater. Maybe an inch or two from the top I just roll the coater back and then finish up. All in one fluid motion on the stroke. If that makes sense.

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2015, 01:37:41 PM »
Wayne, it works like an auto coater in that sense.

Check out this video and see how they do it.  This is basically what two handed guys do.

Screen Printing GRUNIG coating G-COAT 404.wmv

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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2015, 01:47:33 PM »
Well, you got me thinking.  That's a good thing.

Maybe when I have the time, I'll crank out the mig welder and build something like this.  Unit with a handle to lean in and lean out, rotate the screen from top to bottom for second coat, then rotate again, orient inside to outside and do the final coat.  I'll have to figure a clamp method on the screen tho. 

I'm sure it works for you.  I believe my screens are quite a bit smaller than yours (21 x 23) which allows a different design since I only need 1 hand for the coater. 

It's at the bottom of my list right now, lol.


Update - watched that video and it gave me an idea for the missing part - a way to clamp the screen in.  The coater is a unique design.  Mine would be running out the sides I think at the end of the stroke tipping back.  It's still at the bottom of the list  :)

 

« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 01:59:17 PM by screenxpress »
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Re: Our latest DIY project-a screen coating stand.
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2015, 02:15:37 PM »
M&R's uses a more standard coater but the method is essentially the same thing.  Probably less "delay" between stopping and rocking it back.  I just wanted you to see the mechanics... timing wise would obviously be adjusted as you are doing it by hand.

I have a few spring loaded ideas on how  you could flip the screens around, not sure how good they are though.  I don't have the room to test them out anyway. :)

If I did, I'd probably get Grunig. :)