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Offline ericheartsu

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Auto Coaters
« on: February 20, 2015, 06:43:43 PM »
Who is using automatic coaters on here? What are you using?
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 07:44:09 PM »
We use a uni kote from m&r...... One of the best machines we have for sure....... It can repeat within 1% eom all day long and anyone can operate it. I mean anyone LOL..... We coat everything in our shop 1/1 with it, and depending on mesh use either the sharp edge or round edge of coater(15-16% difference in eom)

If you have any specific questions ask away, but for sure one of the best things we've put in our shop. Works great with cts

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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 07:54:44 PM »
I was looking at coaters for many months and wanted to get the M&R uni for the Jak shop as it was the only one that fit the size I wanted, coated both sides at once, was stupid easy to use for anyone and fit's just about any screen up to 40+ inches.
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 08:03:08 PM »
i don't really have any specific questions, I just wanted to see what everyone was using. Wether it be the unikote, or the Saati one. It's the next thing we are going to get in the shop in the next couple of months, as I feel like it'll just take one more variable out of the question.
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 08:26:14 PM »
What is the price range on a coater?

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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 08:37:36 PM »
Well I will say there's lots of advantages but one major thing was quality of life. I busted my back for years doing all the coating, then I went through a good amount of employees which all hated coating. Just never seemed like I could get an employee that truly enjoyed coating. Now everyone in my shop begs to coat because all they have to do is push a button lol I just left the shop for the night and the last thing I did was coat 50 screens. Took me a little over a half hour but I'm in a good mood my back feels great and I have perfect screens ready to go for Monday. Once you start auto coating you won't look back. Our uni kote rocks it for us here
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 08:37:59 PM »
What is the price range on a coater?
Around 16K
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 08:38:36 PM »
What is the price range on a coater?

When we bought our m&r coater they were around 15k at that time
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 08:43:17 PM »
Well I will say there's lots of advantages but one major thing was quality of life. I busted my back for years doing all the coating, then I went through a good amount of employees which all hated coating. Just never seemed like I could get an employee that truly enjoyed coating. Now everyone in my shop begs to coat because all they have to do is push a button lol I just left the shop for the night and the last thing I did was coat 50 screens. Took me a little over a half hour but I'm in a good mood my back feels great and I have perfect screens ready to go for Monday. Once you start auto coating you won't look back. Our uni kote rocks it for us here

We were looking at the Uni Kote back in the fall for this exact same reason.  We hope to squeeze one into our budget soon.  Saving up my dollars.  8)
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 08:57:49 PM »
there are a couple of digikotes and digikote IIs around...but i'm finding buying new is the way to go. So much less headaches. Plus M&R support as everyone knows is awesome.
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2015, 09:13:24 PM »
there are a couple of digikotes and digikote IIs around...but i'm finding buying new is the way to go. So much less headaches. Plus M&R support as everyone knows is awesome.

I'll look at my notes when I get to my shop tomorrow but I think we've done around 10,000 screens since we got our uni kote last year and its been awesome. I do not like the machines that coat two screens at once mainly because it's double the work cleaning the throughs when your done plus your having to fill four throughs at once which require a ton of emulsion. In my shop uni kote was the best choice and it has not let us down. I love it almost as much as our cts but not quite  :P uni kote is so easy to use anyone can coat screens I even let my 4 year old run it lol
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 10:07:39 PM »
there are a couple of digikotes and digikote IIs around...but i'm finding buying new is the way to go. So much less headaches. Plus M&R support as everyone knows is awesome.

uhhh.. former II user here and ahh.. yeah that's all i have to say about that  ???

Danny just nailed it plus the thing has a HUGE footprint.
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 04:40:22 AM »
We made the decision to go auto coating right off the bat (we bought it 4 months before even ordering a press) simply because it does not require skilled labour which is almost impossible to find, let alone keep.

This is the unit we settled on after searching worldwide http://www.grunig.ch/en/products/coating/g-coat-404.html. The quality of the scoop coater design is what swayed me. It doesn't have some of the bells and whistles of other units around, but I prefer all our gear to have elegant and thoughtful design not be full of bells and whistles that rarely get used and in the end are just more not better.

Unfortunately after the Swiss francagedon recently it just went up in price by quite a bit.

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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 09:35:35 AM »
Unfortunately after the Swiss francagedon recently it just went up in price by quite a bit.

How does the Grunig compare in price versus the Uni-Kote?
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Re: Auto Coaters
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 10:22:28 AM »
One of my customers has had the Grunig coater for years now, and they coat hundreds of screens a day with no issues.  The main advantage they like about an auto coater is they can take anybody off the street give them a job, and have them coating consistently and correctly in a matter of minutes.  Like TCred said though, Grunig's pricing is usually pretty high.
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