Ryonet Micro registration heads and weak shocks?

[Appstro]

I installed the micro units on my silver press and now my arms sometimes fall during printing. I think the shocks are not strong enough for these heavier micro registration heads. Anyone else had this issue?

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Are they gas springs? If so, I know that over time the Nitrogen can and does leak out, leaving the springs weakened.

They may be available from Ryonet. 

McMaster Carr, MSC and Grainger may be places to look if not.

A quick google search found this http://www.bansbach.com/index.php/en/products/gas-springs?gclid=COi52LbxxcMCFRY2aQodpDgAiQ

Oh, and do save up for a better piece of equipment. (Not what you wanted to hear, I'm sure.)

Good luck!!

[TCT]

Try using bungee cords, and attach them to opposing heads. I don't know anything about the silver press, but the shop I worked at in high school had busted springs and that's how we fixed them there.

[Frog]

Similar problem with the regular springs that did the same thing on my old original Hopkins when I added aftermarket micro-registration units. I was able to merely increase friction on the pivot bolts.
It was common however, to see added bungee cords on similar machines to accomodate the added weight of larger frames.

[Appstro]

Thanks guys. What would you recommend as a next step press? I bought this set up and it works OK but I would like to upgrade. Maybe a nice 4 -6 color/2 station?

[Frog]

Thanks guys. What would you recommend as a next step press? I bought this set up and it works OK but I would like to upgrade. Maybe a nice 4 -6 color/2 station?

I don't think that you can find many "nice" modern presses with only two stations. 6/6 and 6/4 are the norm.
Depending on budget, there are a boatload of good, industrial quality presses out there in either the industry classifieds or often in your local Craigslist.

Most common oldies I see from $500-$1500 are Workhorse, Hopkins, but also old Advance and newer Rototex, Vastex, Antec, and some M&R, though the Chameleon is more than you need, the Kruzer is too new to be found very cheaply, some sidewinders may be out there.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

If it's time for that upgrade, look on digitsmith, craigslist ebay etc. And then you can ask for advice here...about the unit you are looking at.

I like Searchtempest which is a kind of web crawler that compiles at all of Craigslist AND Ebay... all in one swell foop.

I have an old Hopkins (Pro-Line) 6-4 and I'm not sure you could ever wear it out where it couldn't be fixed--if you are handy". I replaced a lower mainshaft bushing with a 2" flange ball bearing designed for a Disk Cultivator. Farming stuff. It was designed with a goofy plastic doughnut clamped in a clamshell. (Bad idea.) About a $75-$100.00 repair if I remember correctly.

About any old used manual you'd run across would trigger a grin or a frown by somebody on this board. You just gotta ask. Time is on your side, because you are already up and running now. Just start looking and be patient.

Stan

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Thanks guys. What would you recommend as a next step press? I bought this set up and it works OK but I would like to upgrade. Maybe a nice 4 -6 color/2 station?

a new Kruzer may fit your needs much better than you think. You should check one out.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Everything I've heard about the Kruzer is positive.

[jvanick]

we replaced an older beater Workhorse Odyssey with a Kruzer last summer and couldn't be happier with it...  The step up from printing on a worn out manual press to a new press with side clamps is amazing, and is worth every penny in frustration saved.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

we replaced an older beater Workhorse Odyssey with a Kruzer last summer and couldn't be happier with it...  The step up from printing on a worn out manual press to a new press with side clamps is amazing, and is worth every penny in frustration saved.

I know NOTHING about your shop. Are you folks all manual?

HA!  I'm learning to print all over again!  I'm sure glad we moved in our old auto in the winter. So much to learn. We seem to be slow this time of year, EVERY year.  I hate that, but I guess we've gotten used to it to a certain degree.

The Kruzer is MATURE technology, by a company that knows how to engineer stuff. I've never built anything that I couldn't improve upon the next time around. A few iterations of that type of dedicated engineering on a grand scale is going to yield good results.

I've never used side clamps. Occasionally we shift a left chest over to center chest on onesies, or youth extra smalls. You know...Tree Service Guy And Wife INC. need a few toddler tee or two to show off at a Church Dinner. That wouldn't work on side clamps, but I also can see the advantages.

Stan

[jvanick]

we replaced an older beater Workhorse Odyssey with a Kruzer last summer and couldn't be happier with it...  The step up from printing on a worn out manual press to a new press with side clamps is amazing, and is worth every penny in frustration saved.

I know NOTHING about your shop. Are you folks all manual?

HA!  I'm learning to print all over again!  I'm sure glad we moved in our old auto in the winter. So much to learn. We seem to be slow this time of year, EVERY year.  I hate that, but I guess we've gotten used to it to a certain degree.

The Kruzer is MATURE technology, by a company that knows how to engineer stuff. I've never built anything that I couldn't improve upon the next time around. A few iterations of that type of dedicated engineering on a grand scale is going to yield good results.

I've never used side clamps. Occasionally we shift a left chest over to center chest on onesies, or youth extra smalls. You know...Tree Service Guy And Wife INC. need a few toddler tee or two to show off at a Church Dinner. That wouldn't work on side clamps, but I also can see the advantages.

Stan

We're 99% an auto shop... started on the odyssey and then got a beater used Javelin a few years back...

Completely upgraded the shop this past november to a Sportsman 10c, Mini-Sprint gas dryer, and I-Image CTS...

but we still do 'wierd' stuff on the auto... and small jobs that it's not worth swapping the platens over on the auto.

I hear ya on learning how to print all over... When we got the Javelin, it was a huge learning curve, and less so, but still a decent learning curve when we got the Sportsman tho... however, looking back, each of these steps has made us better printers...

[Appstro]

I am just one dude and I have a manual press. No need for auto at the moment.

[Frog]

Out of curiosity, what is your budget?
Also, do you have a real (belt) dryer?

[Appstro]

I dunno maybe $2000
I do have a lil black buddy conveyor. Works great for what I do.
Mostly I do 1-2 color shirts and no more than 200 usually at a time.