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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2015, 10:22:25 AM »
Here's the video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4uuu-2v10Y
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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2015, 10:25:42 AM »
Well that's complicatedly simple.

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2015, 10:38:18 AM »
seems more reliable than the flip and throw version...

... starts thinking about buyin:
some 8020 extrusions..
a old beater belt dryer (for the belt, motor and rollers)...
a electric motor with a 'timing belt' and vfd (same arrangement as in an AC print head)
some prox sensors for the limits of the 'table' travel...
and a photocell/beam sensor to detect the shirt on the belt and 'start' the table movement.
might not even need to have the table raise and lower if you timed things correctly.

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2015, 11:23:22 AM »
Heres some reasons I believe many had lost interest in it. It stacks rather sloppy; someone will still need to fold in dozens and QC. So no significant labor savings and QC is not happening in real time. And someone will need to keep an eye on it as shirts could back up in the dryer. For mid-large shops most would agree human eyes and hands need to be back there. For small shops? Well the ROI could take a while.

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2015, 11:36:23 AM »
Ok, then Jason... Add a camera to the cart that monitors the stack, you can watch on a monitor what is going on. :)

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2015, 12:22:18 PM »
Heres some reasons I believe many had lost interest in it. It stacks rather sloppy; someone will still need to fold in dozens and QC. So no significant labor savings and QC is not happening in real time. And someone will need to keep an eye on it as shirts could back up in the dryer. For mid-large shops most would agree human eyes and hands need to be back there. For small shops? Well the ROI could take a while.

I have to agree.  I think it's cool in concept but unless it was wildly affordable to it's target market (very small/single person shops), I think most could find a better place to put $25k.
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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2015, 12:24:34 PM »
it is definitely NOT worth 25k to me... would be worth it to me at 5-6k tho...

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2015, 12:31:48 PM »
it is definitely NOT worth 25k to me... would be worth it to me at 5-6k tho...

It's blue... nothing blue cost that little. ;)

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2015, 01:01:36 PM »
Well, there's a reason they aren't made anymore, right?


I was reading yesterday that one of the reasons textiles are still so hands on/labor intensive
is the fact that fabric doesn't like to play well with machinery, IE it's not rigid so you can't push
it around like paper or plastic or whatnot. I think that video demonstrates the concept rather well.
Hell, even the auto-unloaders don't get much love.

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2015, 02:04:04 PM »
Y'all are all going about it the wrong way: You are forgetting the amazing support you'll have behind the piece of equipment!  ;)


Ok Jvanick is selling out -- back to, what, 45 more buyers?  Anyone else?

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2015, 02:12:40 PM »
Some jobs are better suited to humans, this is one of them. The concessions you'd have to make elsewhere in your processes would almost certainly negate any savings the machine gained you. I think the M&R passport has more potential for labor savings and profit gains.
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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2015, 02:24:12 PM »
at least 90% of our QC is done by the puller... by the time it gets through the dryer, we've already ruined at least 24 shirts ...

a stacker at the end for 2 sided jobs would be awesome... I don't even care if the stack is perfect...

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Re: Outback automated stacker
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2015, 02:43:28 PM »
Then ROI would be after 12-18 months. As stated further up that 25k could be spent on auto upgrade, DTS etc. 25K gets me a used auto/dryer so I can add another production line. ROI far better and shorter. But that wouldn't make sense for everybody