White ink/Black ink questions

[alan802]

I like that Homer has stuck with Phoenix white for so long, and I'll admit, it has been a solid performer and there has never been a gallon of the 30 or so I've used of the Phoenix that wasn't exactly like the others.  Something can be said of consistency like that.  If it were a little shorter bodied I could see it getting another run in our shop.  It doesn't shear quite as fast as I'd like but optically it's very WHITE.

[DannyGruninger]

I'm not sure what's going on with wilflex but it seems like every 5 of quick white we get is different..... For the quick guys out there are you seeing the same we are? I'm ready to throw the towel in on quick to be honest

[Inkworks]

for what it's worth, from the 30-40 different whites we tested, it comes down to working temp of the ink more than the ink/brand. pick one you can get from your supplier, who cares what the price is. learn how to print with it and at what temp it likes to be at. in this day and age, I don't think any manufacturer makes a "sh*tty" ink, you just have to learn how to use it...my take anyway...

This world need s a good short-run white that prints well straight out of the bucket without warming up for those of us that do a lot of runs under 100pcs.

I don't really care if a white will print well for 10000pcs. without breaking down as that isn't our market except on rare exception.

[Gilligan]

for what it's worth, from the 30-40 different whites we tested, it comes down to working temp of the ink more than the ink/brand. pick one you can get from your supplier, who cares what the price is. learn how to print with it and at what temp it likes to be at. in this day and age, I don't think any manufacturer makes a "sh*tty" ink, you just have to learn how to use it...my take anyway...

This world need s a good short-run white that prints well straight out of the bucket without warming up for those of us that do a lot of runs under 100pcs.

I don't really care if a white will print well for 10000pcs. without breaking down as that isn't our market except on rare exception.

As for as cotton white goes, Meteor white has this locked up, HANDS down.  No white prints better out of the bucket... not on this planet.

[Homer]

I ran the cheap whites, I ran the expensive ones, one strokes and such, and for us, we keep going back to Phoenix for blends. I know what we are going to get when we run it. For a "prefect" short run ink, nothing we have ever tried is perfect and I absolutely refuse to make my own white... I figured I have to adjust to the ink a little better than adjusting the ink to us. I do not modify my white, ever...

the only ink wilflex makes that impresses us is Solar white and even that isn't their formulation. I have a few gallons of epic something or other here and we never use it. it's super tacky and the colors are muted compared to IC...it's ok but not worth the coin.

Mimo, you're right. there is one ink I can think of that is pure sh*t....horse sh*t to be exact.

[Gilligan]

I ran the cheap whites, I ran the expensive ones, one strokes and such, and for us, we keep going back to Phoenix for blends. I know what we are going to get when we run it. For a "prefect" short run ink, nothing we have ever tried is perfect and I absolutely refuse to make my own white... I figured I have to adjust to the ink a little better than adjusting the ink to us. I do not modify my white, ever...

the only ink wilflex makes that impresses us is Solar white and even that isn't their formulation. I have a few gallons of epic something or other here and we never use it. it's super tacky and the colors are muted compared to IC...it's ok but not worth the coin.

Mimo, you're right. there is one ink I can think of that is pure sh*t....horse sh*t to be exact.

I'll get you Bobby's contact info... you need to get a sample of Meteor White.

[dirkdiggler]

I'm not sure what's going on with wilflex but it seems like every 5 of quick white we get is different..... For the quick guys out there are you seeing the same we are? I'm ready to throw the towel in on quick to be honest

Same problem for us, that's why after all my years using it, I gave it up and went to Legacy.

[jvanick]

Mine has been quite consistent, IF I remember to mix the hell out of it before using it and/or splitting it up the first time...