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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2014, 01:06:54 PM »
Wanted to follow up on this. Thanks everyone for the push back to Quick. It really is da' best.

Dealing with Midwest is not the best. In looking for Solar white which Midwest didn't carry, I asked the price
of Quick, got a quote of $290 something. This was with them having my customer number.

Called back to order, gave them customer number, got a price of $350 something. I said try again and got a
price of $270. WTF!!!!I understand rewarding clients that spend with you, I really do. But if you are going to play that
game you really really need to be consistent in it and not just throwing out prices willy nilly.

But yeah, Quick has been killing it.

Maybe when Nazdar Source One finishes their new website (how many years has it been now?) everyone will get consistent awesome pricing...but I doubt it!


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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2014, 01:35:22 PM »
Yeah, Wilflex is on lock here on the west coast. Source One or Midwest....
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 01:42:40 PM by ebscreen »

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2014, 03:59:29 PM »
I'm just going to call a spade a spade here, Midwest operates like total dirtbags.  Every time I'm forced to order from them I get ripped off whether it's on pricing, shipping, glaringly incorrect information about products or getting expired or incorrectly stored product that doesn't work.  They once even billed us at over MSRP for some cap film.  I said screw 'em long ago and we're all Nazdar for the Wilflex.  I think Nazdar should move in on Midwest's turf and get a NW shipping location going.

Glad you got it back on track with Quick.  I think it's my favorite plastisol in the shop and it's been our white for everything but bleeders/100% poly since QCM went under.


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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2014, 04:08:19 PM »
Yeah I asked our sales person from Midwest for pricing on certain items that I already knew there list prices were and was quoted higher than what the standard price was. They operate on the get as much as you think you can out of them pricing model.

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 11:19:06 AM »
Rutland White Plus discharge. Come on you knew that was coming ;)

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 11:30:34 AM »
Rutland White Plus discharge. Come on you knew that was coming ;)

...saw it coming from a mile away. ;D
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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2014, 11:41:27 AM »
Rutland White Plus discharge. Come on you knew that was coming ;)

On shirts that discharge (heck and even some that don't discharge well :) ), that's our FAVORITE white discharge ink now...

works great, and seems to be WAY better than the CCI we were using before...

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 11:44:05 AM »
That's correct although I suspect CCi (maybe others?) is on the case. I propose the name Arctic Fox white.

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 12:11:51 PM »
I dunno guys, I still prefer CCI's white to Rutland's...

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2014, 12:35:19 PM »
I have used the Rutland, CCI and Matsui interchangeably the last few months and the Matsui is brighter here.  I keep trying the other two just to make sure I'm not losing my mind but the Matsui outperforms by a fairly large margin every time. 
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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 12:36:42 PM »
Maybe we can all agree on what the worst white we've used is?

For discharge it's IT here. Plastisol would be Union's Diamond white.

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2014, 12:44:38 PM »
I found the Matsui to be the brightest as well, though I have started using the CCI more due to the longer dry-in time and general creaminess out of the can.  The matsui always needs printgen and water added or it starts gumming up real quick (in my shop).  The SP-1400 seems to have solved my screen breakdown issues I was having with the HVP as well with the CCI.

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Re: Best flooding white?
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2014, 01:20:13 PM »
I have used the Rutland, CCI and Matsui interchangeably the last few months and the Matsui is brighter here.  I keep trying the other two just to make sure I'm not losing my mind but the Matsui outperforms by a fairly large margin every time.

Matsui was brighter for me too. CCI 2nd, Union last. Didn't try Rutland but think it's the same as Union? I went with CCI as it's almost as good as Matsui and it was easier to get in 5 gal and cheaper.

Back on topic though, the only white I have that floods well is Miami smooth, superior is a little stiff unless it's 95+ degrees.